It doesn't matter how good of a DRG you are.

[Shneibel]

DRG have piercing damage buff so they are great when paired with BRDs.

yeah, I take that back, should have not say "does not offer anything" but should be "does not offer as much"

[Wadoka]

I second making "Elusive Jump" take you straight UP outta the arena, for X seconds, and making you immune to damage and untargetable for that time, just like Boss jumps.

Isn't that canon FF as well? The Lancer from FF9, Freya?

[Chukkaque]

I dont ever seem to run into any of this stigma. I've received compliments for my ability to SoS OT on occasion as well as keeping my damage high. People generally seem to dig my DRG. Though recently I read some posts that me start debating damage output by dropping Phl and Fracture and adding another thrust combo.

[Fenral]

Isn't that canon FF as well? The Lancer from FF9, Freya?

I can't help but remember Freya as a squishy Dragoon, so I suppose that's tradition, too.

[Mugiawara]

very sure it is because DRG does not offer anything for the PT. DRG don't fail behind with the dmg

Says hello.
Reduce target's piercing resistance by 10%
Disembowel has a Piercing status that helps themselves, their bards and all
other bards/dragoons in a raid.

[Ramath]

You also need to remember a very important, albeit disgusting, point:

People need someone to /point and /laugh at to make themselves feel better. "Better him than me."

The vast majority of these people who sincerely say these things are just mindlessly regurgitating what they read on teh internetz. They haven't taken the time to compare DPS parses with similar gear levels and played by the same person who knows both classes equally well. Without these elements in place, its almost impossible to get true facts on which job is better.

Most people see another player out-parse them and automatically blame their job, because heaven forbid they blame themselves. They are perfect, after all, and the only logical excuse for their lack of performance is SE's favoritism to a job they aren't playing.

I play DRG in my raid team. I have run most of FFXIV's content with my raid members, as well as people in my FC, and countless PUGs. Very few people are able to out perform my DRG. I can tell you that I have severely out performed every job out there in a variety of settings. I get the DRG stigma very rarely (aside from FC banter), and when I do, it's always a pleasure to see their responses when I tell them our DPS numbers, watch them die to mechanics first, etc. Most of the time, the response is a variant of "Wow, I didn't know DRG could do so well!" They prove my earlier point far better than any parse ever could: People just blindly repeat whatever they hear.

Now, DRG certainly has its reasons for it's stigma, ranging from poor player skill, fights not suited to DRG's mechanic set, FanBoi's who just want to look like Kaine Highwind, and everything in between. But when you actually learn your rotations, single target and AoEs, learn the fight, and most importantly, learn when NOT to jump, you'll very easily prove that DRG can certainly pull their weight on the DPS checks.

Just remember: People just need a job (not their own) to laugh at to help them feel better about themselves. As long as someone else is being laughed at, they feel safe.

[Kotemon]

I can't help but remember Freya as a squishy Dragoon, so I suppose that's tradition, too.

Don't forget she also had Dragon's Crest (rancor based move) that ignored defense and Trance

[Pinkie_Pie]

So, should I finish leveling up a drg then? or just keep going on with leveling up my ninja?

[LunaHoshino]

I play DRG in my raid team. I have run most of FFXIV's content with my raid members, as well as people in my FC, and countless PUGs. Very few people are able to out perform my DRG. I can tell you that I have severely out performed every job out there in a variety of settings. I get the DRG stigma very rarely (aside from FC banter), and when I do, it's always a pleasure to see their responses when I tell them our DPS numbers, watch them die to mechanics first, etc. Most of the time, the response is a variant of "Wow, I didn't know DRG could do so well!" They prove my earlier point far better than any parse ever could: People just blindly repeat whatever they hear.

This has been my experience too. I'm in an LS dedicated to helping people get clears on endgame content (most often T5, T9 and the EX Primals) and I often get specifically invited to groups and farms because the other LS members know that I can be counted on to play well. Heck, my FC has a running joke about me being the worst DRG ever since I'm often the last one left standing when we wipe to things.

People generally appreciate DRGs who know how to do their job and pull their weight in a party. As long as you can do that, you'll be fine.

Also, I've found that the general opinion of DRGs in a party goes WAY up when you just emergency OTed and saved the party from a wipe.

[seekified]

This has been my experience too. I'm in an LS dedicated to helping people get clears on endgame content (most often T5, T9 and the EX Primals) and I often get specifically invited to groups and farms because the other LS members know that I can be counted on to play well. Heck, my FC has a running joke about me being the worst DRG ever since I'm often the last one left standing when we wipe to things.

People generally appreciate DRGs who know how to do their job and pull their weight in a party. As long as you can do that, you'll be fine.

Also, I've found that the general opinion of DRGs in a party goes WAY up when you just emergency OTed and saved the party from a wipe.

This is pretty much my situation as well. I've mained DRG since closed beta and the stigma of us dying all the time has been there pretty much the whole time, but in my static and in my FC I'm a valued addition to a party because they know I do my job pretty damn well. DRG is arguably more difficult to play "properly" because of the long rotation and animation locks, but I've never felt that the dragoons who do it right have a hard time proving their worth in parties.