Selene SkillSpeed Buff

[Nutz]

I'd imagine people complain about this due entirely to ignorance. People are always saying how skillspeed is bad because it drains TP too quickly, but as you said that's only true in fights where you could drain your TP completely. If you're never running completely out of TP then you're just doing the same damage as before, only faster.

[ChriZirhC]

I tend to hate the skillspeed buff from selene not because of tp issues but at times it throws off my timing on when I reapply my dots. but thats just me. lol

the buff itself shouldnt be a big deal on dungeons. who the heck runs out of tp there anyway.

[Spoekes]

I'm currently on T11 and my raid don't want me to use Selene because of the Skill Speed buff draining TP. Something along the lines of Bard having to use Paeon will actually reduce overall DPS because he can't DPS fully himself. Has anyone tested if this really is the case? I don't mind using Eos while we're still learning the fight, but surely Selene would be the better pick when we have it on farm?

I would really like to know the exact reasoning behind this too.

For Selenes Buffs to be detrimental, the slightly shorter interval of Foes for playing peon a little sooner and the impact to DPS this does to the Bard (roughly 10 DPS over a period of 4 minutes - if I recall correctly) must outweigh the gain that Selenes buffs offer.

I'm shuffeling some numbers in my head but I can't see how the Bards Damage loss is ever bigger than the DPS gain for the speed buffs.

Still

[Cynfael]

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I don't play melee in FCOB, so I'm not in a good position to critique my NIN and MNK, but they already request Paeon near the end of P1 in T11 because otherwise they're scraping the barrel halfway through the add phase. That's without my using Selene.

On the other hand, our BRD could simply play Paeon more frequently, but that would probably eliminate Foes'.

Since we have no issues with Enrage, I default to using Eos to help cover mistakes (yes, one or two people still have issues after months of doing the content...the nerd rage is rising.)

[Spoekes]

I don't play melee in FCOB, so I'm not in a good position to critique my NIN and MNK, but they already request Paeon near the end of P1 in T11 because otherwise they're scraping the barrel halfway through the add phase. That's without my using Selene.

That's what I meant in my OP, I do understand that you sometimes want to time the singing so its not peon during add phase and/or you want to make sure that foes can be played at a precise moment.

[Garlyle]

As a guy who does a fair amount of MNKing (when I'm not having to tank/heal, sigh), I don't think I've ever run out of TP on a standard dungeon boss; none of them live long enough. There's a couple Crystal Tower boss fights where I can legitimately run out of TP if it's a bad DPS group and the circumstances are right (Hein where I never get frog'd/frozen, Five-headed dragon without being the sneeze target, Cerberus when I'm on the outside), but that's about it outside of Coil.

[PetiteMalFleur]

I prefer Selene in raid. My melee also request I not use her sksp buffs. Sometimes I sneak it in anyway.

For dungeons I use Eos. With her buffed hots up I can spend more time in clerics while she keeps up the tank even in big pulls. Me spending more time in clerics makes the dungeon go faster than Selene would allow with only rouse to help me out. Eos us also very efficient at tanking adds for boss burn.