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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielyanna View Post
    Just to put in some more perspective... EB Games are selling that particular game in CE for... well, take a look...

    https://ebgames.com.au/ps4-202663-Me...-PlayStation-4

    On Topic: So far there is still nothing on EB Games website about Heavensward CE... Hell, even the Heavensward/ARR isn't listed there either, yet they are taking preorders for it. It's pretty much common practice that if something is only available in 'extremely limited' quantities, the price for it will be far higher than what's expected. Though in this case, $379 JUST for a expansion? That's just being plain greedy. Some can argue that you get a physical statue... Ok, that may be fair TO A POINT! There have been numerous CE's with statues (though the quality of said statues varies as everyone will know), so to charge a exorbitant fee like $380AUD is absurd and reeks of nothing but out and out pure greed.

    If this is indeed a indication of the final price for the PHYSICAL Collector's Edition... then for the first time, I'll be looking into the Digital copy when (or IF) it appears on AU PSN.
    I agree. I have 0 faith in EB games. They are notoriously overpriced and I often go with other online retailers to purchase my games.

    The point I am trying to make to others is that other gaming distributors have given the AU community other options. I can purchase games from a multitude of aus/uk/us retailers. I purchased my Tomb Raider CE from MightyApe, my FFX/X-2 game from the UK, my FFXIII CE from amazon and my KH collectors from ozgameshop.

    I have no options this time. It's one retailer (possibly two) overpriced retailers or bust. It's like SE FFXIV team doesn't care about our community at all.

    In the end it looks like I will have to buy the digital collectors edition and buy the NA CE edition using a forwarding service. I'll still have more money than buying from an SEA retailer.
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    Sorry guys, this has nothing to do with SE and everything to do with your local retailers. Most manufacturers can establish a suggested retail price (msrp) which usually appears somewhere on the item itself, or can be determined through inquiry to the manufacturer. Retailers are in no way obligated to price things at MSRP, as they can use the argument of supply and demand to lower or raise the price at will.

    Here it seems you have about 2 local retailers that provide you with the product, if I am reading the above correctly, which is a perfect breeding ground for them to charge much more than a suggested retail price, as you have no other options to obtain said product.

    It was suggested earlier, why there wasn't a cap on the price the goods could be sold by retailers. Other than that being impossible for SE to verify and enforce, price fixing in a free market economy is a big no-no. It just boils down to, there is limited supply where you are and a relatively high demand.
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    Local Retailers AND Government, they set taxes on types of product, when SHIPPING IT INTO THEIR COUNTRY. Australia if I am not mistaken has a higher taxation rate on import, parallel import restrictions, there are a lot of things, its not JUST the retailers in question; but a whole lot of mess that no one seems to want to talk about in your country (Australia in particular). If you feel so adamant about this issue you should not look at the developer (Square-Enix in this case, they are not the ones marking it up) but rather at your COUNTRY, because all the rules they have put into place is allowing retailers to price product at a higher dollar amount to make cost (selling one video game nets around 3-5 USD profit, that means 3-5 goes to the retailer, the rest is the cost of developing the game. If you want to read more about it--and I recommend it if you are living in those countries--here is a link.

    http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/11/why...-cost-so-much/

    I get you're upset about having to pay the price (literally) on these products, but again if you feel strongly about the matter you should bring it to your governing official's attention, to see about change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Local Retailers AND Government,
    It's not really the government, taxes don't cover for half the over mark up price. It is all store profit. So it is the retailer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Local Retailers AND Government, they set taxes on types of product, when SHIPPING IT INTO THEIR COUNTRY. Australia if I am not mistaken has a higher taxation rate on import, parallel import restrictions, there are a lot of things, its not JUST the retailers in question; but a whole lot of mess that no one seems to want to talk about in your country (Australia in particular). If you feel so adamant about this issue you should not look at the developer (Square-Enix in this case, they are not the ones marking it up) but rather at your COUNTRY, because all the rules they have put into place is allowing retailers to price product at a higher dollar amount to make cost (selling one video game nets around 3-5 USD profit, that means 3-5 goes to the retailer, the rest is the cost of developing the game. If you want to read more about it--and I recommend it if you are living in those countries--here is a link.

    http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/11/why...-cost-so-much/

    I get you're upset about having to pay the price (literally) on these products, but again if you feel strongly about the matter you should bring it to your governing official's attention, to see about change.

    Yes I am completely aware of the issue. My point is SE has NOT given the option to purchase THIS SE game from other retailers to avoid this practice. I can purchase a multitude of SE games from other distributors.
    My second issue is that SE can supply our retailers but can't supply the individual consumer? I can purchase items directly from Valve, Blizzard, Bioware just to name a few. What limits them to ship from their own distributor to us? What trade-by laws are specifically restricting them?
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    No, read the article. A credible source says it is in fact a bit of both, retailers are doing it but its because the government has set it up to be that way. Retailers won't change unless there is change in the law that lets more retailers offer competitive prices.

    Sadly I cannot speak to the inter-relations of SE and your government, or where SE manufactures product and your government. We just don't know that information and that information sadly will NEVER be disclosed to use forum goers. They did say it was going to be available and it was just because their distributor doesn't do business with your country doesn't mean you can blame them. There could be something deeper than we don't care about you--which there definitely is--I mean how absurd is it to think that a company that it's sole existence is to make money--doesn't want it? There is some legal matter which is stopping this from happening.

    I should note that all the companies you listed in your example are American companies too, Australian/American relations are pretty good, iirc. Maybe Japan and Australia aren't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    No, read the article. A credible source says it is in fact a bit of both, retailers are doing it but its because the government has set it up to be that way. Retailers won't change unless there is change in the law that lets more retailers offer competitive prices.
    Kotaku is a pile of shite. I assume EB games when to them to give them the "reason" why they are forced to charge so much.
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    lol, Chiramu, your opinion is fact. I'm offering intellectual insight, I can Google scholar the information if you prefer it that way. You can hate EB all you want, HOWEVER; EB is owned by GameStop (like they 100% control EB, GameStop/EB does NOT do franchises only corporate) and you don't see GameStop listing prices like that in other countries.

    Like I said its more than just a retailer thing. You can refuse to see the facts all you want, but they are still facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    I should note that all the companies you listed in your example are American companies too, Australian/American relations are pretty good, iirc. Maybe Japan and Australia aren't?
    http://www.austrade.gov.au/Export/Ab...reements/jaepa

    If anything our trade agreement is better with Japan than those other countries.
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    The don't ship from Japan, they ship from China. Where a majority of Japanese companies' factories are. Not to mention the JAEPA is primarily focused on EXPORTING goods from Australia to Japan and it has only begun since Jan 15th 2015 so more than likely it is not even remotely in full swing yet.
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