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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    Okay, from the sounds of it the issue is Eos thinking <t> is her target, not mine - which of course, her target is nobody, so it targets herself.
    Not quite. The macro's <t>, <tt> or whatever syntax is being used is the one that would apply to the player. I just tried this myself to be 100% sure: Have the fairy /sic on something, it has a target. The macro with embrace <t> would still heal whoever I would target - As long it's a legal target for healing. So giantslayer is right.

    Additionally:
    if you would macro 3 macro's in a row as <t>, <tt> and <ft>. Whichever is becomes a legal command will be executed first and all the others ignored. Meaning: If you have a monster targetted, the fairy would just cast Embrace on herself. Much like how you would heal yourself if you would try and heal an illegal target (ie: enemy). The only exception that the next line would be executed would be if the first one would contain an error. An error such as not having anyone targeted.

    edit: Also, fairies -do- have a target. Have it /sic on a target and check your fairy:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
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    So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.
    if you are targeting the tank, then yes, it should work. Whether it's comfortable to use is another issue. Mainly when you want to cast bio on a target that your embrace target is not targeting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    if you are targeting the tank, then yes, it should work. Whether it's comfortable to use is another issue. Mainly when you want to cast bio on a target that your embrace target is not targeting
    True, but it still lets you help in some form while still having the tank selected. You can set up Bane on a <t> and <tt> as well so you can Bane the tank's target, hitting anything nearby. Often as Scholar when you have to burn things quickly, they die before you can cast your dots anyways so this would be more so for helping with boss and add damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    True, but it still lets you help in some form while still having the tank selected. You can set up Bane on a <t> and <tt> as well so you can Bane the tank's target, hitting anything nearby. Often as Scholar when you have to burn things quickly, they die before you can cast your dots anyways so this would be more so for helping with boss and add damage.
    I'm a PC user, so I can't really imagine how a Scholar can play with all the constant target switching. There -was- a topic about this before. But of course as a desktop player I didn't bother reading it xD But for you console players, it may be interesting:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ighlight=macro
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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.
    Yes, it would work, but it is a sub-optimal setup. Let me paint three scenarios for you:
    A. Tank is rotating targets to spread aggro. <tt> switches with him, and you are unable to successfully execute all 3 DoTs and Bane on the same guy.
    B. You decide to manually target an enemy because the tank isn't targeting the right guy. The Embrace portion of your macro triggers a self-heal.
    C. Tank is targeting the right person. You fire your macro off and it works. In 2.5 seconds, your global cooldown is ready and you fire your second DoT. However, Eos has a 3 second cooldown so she is not ready when you are. She sits there doing nothing until either your third skill or the tank goes below 80% and she heals on her own.

    I keep Embrace separate from my attacks.

    I gave you the short version of my setup earlier. In my faerie guide, I discuss Embrace macros in one section towards the middle and targeting macros in another at the end. I have given very extensive thought to trying to make the best possible setup and feel I have more or less succeeded. Please have a look in my guide if you want a lengthy explanation.
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    How To Train Your Faerie
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/209109-How-To-Train-Your-Faerie-A-Comprehensive-Guide

    Best tank guide ever! (Not mine but I am putting it in my sig because it is THAT awesome.)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/228662-A-Visual-Guide-to-Tanking

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    Areku Foxfire
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    Adlo should always come first when tank healing. You can use physick on DPS since they don't get hit very often but on the tank always adlo first and only physick if they need further healing and the shield is still on them.

    Also I feel it will be useful to get in the habit of stance dancing. Scholars are generally expected to DPS in high end stuff when they can afford to. Best to learn early!

    Also helpful-if you're using Eos, do not for the love of god have her on automatic. She blows her load faster than a $5 hooker in a frat house. Learn what her spells do and use them yourself.
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