Noobie SCH has some questions please

[giantslayer]

/micon "bio" Use whatever ability name obviously, this us just an example
/ac "bio" <t>
/ac "bio' <tt>
/pac "embrace" <t>
/pac "embrace" <f>

This make is so you can target who ever you want - tank or enemy - and be able to damage the enemy, and cure the tank. If you're targeting the tank, you'll DPS his target while using Embrace every time you use a DPS ability. If you're targeting a specific enemy - maybe helping kill an add really quickly that the tank isn't targeting - then you FOCUS target the tank and switch your target to the enemy. Eos will then cast Embrace on your focus target, the tank. Do this for EVERY ability - Ruin, Bio, Miasma, Etc.

This macro will not work the way you described. If you have an enemy or no target selected, any healing ability targeted on <t> will trigger a self-heal for the caster (Eos in this case). What is happening in battle is if the tank is below 80% when embrace comes available, she is auto-casting on the tank. When the tank is above 80%, Eos is actually healing herself when you use that macro. You don't have to take my word for it: go out and test it.

I use creative targeting macros for my attacks but never for heals. My approach is to have the tank be my target and use focus target to stack all my DoTs and bane on a single enemy. Example:

/micon Bio
/ac Bio <t>
/ac Bio <f>
/ac Bio <tt>

Just a quick note, you should not macro Embrace to your skills, you should learn to control Embrace separately.

For attack skills, I agree 100%. For Physick and Adlo, I was originally of the same opinion until I learned more about how faeries operate. I have Embrace macro'd into those two spells, but not for the reasons everyone else does.

My reason is the bugged 20y radius for auto-healing. If any allies within 20y are below 80%hp, you have zero control over Embrace due to auto-healing and everyone's arguments for and against such macros are all moot points. If everyone is above 80%, I won't cast Physick or Adlo: I will just manually command Embrace if someone needs healing. Outside of 20y, however, Eos will sit on her hands and watch your allies die if you don't command her. The natural response to that situation as a player is to manually cast Embrace along with my own spells at long ranges. Putting Embrace together with Physick simply does what I would be doing anyways and gives me one less thing to think about in battle.

[peaches]

This macro will not work the way you described.

Are you positive? I could swear I had it working fine on PS4, but I switched to PC and don't have my macros set up yet, so I just wrote what I figured would work. Would it work if you switched the <f> to the be before <t>? Does Eos not follow <f> macros?

That is the only time I would macro any heal to any other ability, because it would be an easy way to make sure the tank gets constant heals while DPSing. Even if the Focus Target one doesn't work, it would work absolutely fine if you keep the tank targeted, and use <tt> for your attacks, but keeping <t> on the second like for when you're soloing or something.

Literally my only other heal macro is Rouse+Whispering Dawn.

[giantslayer]

Are you positive? I could swear I had it working fine on PS4, but I switched to PC and don't have my macros set up yet, so I just wrote what I figured would work. Would it work if you switched the <f> to the be before <t>? Does Eos not follow <f> macros?

I am positive. Every time you think it is working, it is actually just Eos auto-casting. The issue is not that Eos does follow <f> macros. The issue is the <t> line will execute a self-heal so it will not have a chance to execute the <f>. I have not tested to see if <f> will trigger a self heal with no focus target, so I am not sure whether it will work the other way. It is easy enough for you to test. Just make a macro with /pac Embrace <f> as the only line and see if it makes Eos heal herself or if nothing happens. If I had to guess, I think it would probably self-heal.

The other issue with having the tank as your focus target is that you can't focus target to watch the boss's cast bar. Doing easy content or trash, you could spend most of your time DPSing, but in a tough fight, your main target will fluctuate as you heal people so you won't be able to consistently keep tabs on the boss without focus target. Most of the time it doesn't matter, but in some fights (like T5+6), it is necessary to see what the boss is casting.

[peaches]

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Okay, from the sounds of it the issue is Eos thinking <t> is her target, not mine - which of course, her target is nobody, so it targets herself.

So is there no way at all to macro Embrace with a DPS skill so that she heals your target, while you DPS the tank's target using <tt>? If not, the only solution is to use a numbered target, like <2>. This would only work in specifically either 4 or 8 man, as the positions on the party menu change. OR, the solution would be to focus target the tank, and manually target the enemies. You'd leave <f> as Eos' target, get rid of the <t>, and sadly you would have to swap your focus target back to the boss once you're done DPSing, which could get pretty annoying.

Either way, I feel like I need to get some version of this working. It is just too useful to have Eos spamming Embrace on the tank - even is he's full health - while you're dpsing, just in case.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Okay, from the sounds of it the issue is Eos thinking <t> is her target, not mine - which of course, her target is nobody, so it targets herself.

Not quite. The macro's <t>, <tt> or whatever syntax is being used is the one that would apply to the player. I just tried this myself to be 100% sure: Have the fairy /sic on something, it has a target. The macro with embrace <t> would still heal whoever I would target - As long it's a legal target for healing. So giantslayer is right.

Additionally:
if you would macro 3 macro's in a row as <t>, <tt> and <ft>. Whichever is becomes a legal command will be executed first and all the others ignored. Meaning: If you have a monster targetted, the fairy would just cast Embrace on herself. Much like how you would heal yourself if you would try and heal an illegal target (ie: enemy). The only exception that the next line would be executed would be if the first one would contain an error. An error such as not having anyone targeted.

edit: Also, fairies -do- have a target. Have it /sic on a target and check your fairy:

[peaches]

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So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.

if you are targeting the tank, then yes, it should work. Whether it's comfortable to use is another issue. Mainly when you want to cast bio on a target that your embrace target is not targeting

[giantslayer]

So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.

Yes, it would work, but it is a sub-optimal setup. Let me paint three scenarios for you:
A. Tank is rotating targets to spread aggro. <tt> switches with him, and you are unable to successfully execute all 3 DoTs and Bane on the same guy.
B. You decide to manually target an enemy because the tank isn't targeting the right guy. The Embrace portion of your macro triggers a self-heal.
C. Tank is targeting the right person. You fire your macro off and it works. In 2.5 seconds, your global cooldown is ready and you fire your second DoT. However, Eos has a 3 second cooldown so she is not ready when you are. She sits there doing nothing until either your third skill or the tank goes below 80% and she heals on her own.

I keep Embrace separate from my attacks.

I gave you the short version of my setup earlier. In my faerie guide, I discuss Embrace macros in one section towards the middle and targeting macros in another at the end. I have given very extensive thought to trying to make the best possible setup and feel I have more or less succeeded. Please have a look in my guide if you want a lengthy explanation.

[FoxyAreku]

Adlo should always come first when tank healing. You can use physick on DPS since they don't get hit very often but on the tank always adlo first and only physick if they need further healing and the shield is still on them.

Also I feel it will be useful to get in the habit of stance dancing. Scholars are generally expected to DPS in high end stuff when they can afford to. Best to learn early!

Also helpful-if you're using Eos, do not for the love of god have her on automatic. She blows her load faster than a $5 hooker in a frat house. Learn what her spells do and use them yourself.