Whats with the Gladiator's in high lvl dungeons?

[Sove92]

My guess is either they were bots or clueless people that don't want to admit or acknowledge they have no idea what they are doing. My money is probably on the latter as I have run into such people that got verbally abusive with me when I suggested that they should really go back and do class quests and unlock their jobs if they are past lvl 30.

Not bots. Gil-farming bots always queue together, usually it's a party of 4 BLMs.

[Stormrider]

My guess is either they were bots or clueless people that don't want to admit or acknowledge they have no idea what they are doing. My money is probably on the latter as I have run into such people that got verbally abusive with me when I suggested that they should really go back and do class quests and unlock their jobs if they are past lvl 30.

As much as I hate seeing these people as well. The more common reason is their dps is higher. Way higher in fact. That is why in pvp to stop people from coming as classes instead of jobs they had to give an across the board buff to job damage. It is the same reason you see wars wearing all str gear and no tanks wanting to tank in Crystal Tower. They want to be dps but want the que of a tank. I expect it to be 10 times worse when we see Dark Knights. "I'm a dps, just silly SE makes me tank /emo."

[TouchandFeel]

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I've actually dealt with a solo queued botted tank in a dungeon before. All they did was run around erratically in a semi-random pattern until they got agro on something and then just auto-attacked until they or the mob died and then rinse repeat, so it is possible to see bots in dungeons with you.


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Class DPS>Job DPS is not really the case. It is only maybe helpful for burst damage but gimps you for sustained damage and overall dps. This made it only viable for PvP.
My dps as a PLD far surpasses anything I could do as a GLD, simply because of Sword Oath. Same with MNK because of Fists of Fire. Every job is better than their class counter parts in pretty much every way, the only thing you gain by staying a class is more freedom to cross-class skills but the job skills you are losing out on are way better than anything from cross-class.

As for tanks wearing STR gear, that is not necessarily a bad thing if you have more than enough HP for the content which a lot of tanks do since many out gear the content by a large margin.

[monochromicorn]

While doing a book for my blm, I was unfortunate enough to run into this. We simply kicked the tank after he told us he "doesn't need a job to tank". It's a gld, with no tank stance, so you can see our frustration. After kicking him, I told the rest of them that I would be back as tank, forfeited my dps queue and chance to finish my book, I came back in as tank, since those are usually hard to Come by, and we beat it.

[SpookyGhost]

As much as I hate seeing these people as well. The more common reason is their dps is higher. Way higher in fact. That is why in pvp to stop people from coming as classes instead of jobs they had to give an across the board buff to job damage. It is the same reason you see wars wearing all str gear and no tanks wanting to tank in Crystal Tower. They want to be dps but want the que of a tank. I expect it to be 10 times worse when we see Dark Knights. "I'm a dps, just silly SE makes me tank /emo."

Few things:

1.) Only MRD gains any DPS from Job -> Class, and it's not exactly a massive amount.
2.) Tanks wearing STR gear and tanks not wanting to tank don't necessarily go hand in hand. I wear a full STR set in any CT/ST/WoD run I do and I'm usually the only one who will tank things. It's just silly to have 10k+ HP in content that doesn't require nearly that amount.
3.) I dunno if it's actually tanks wanting to play their tank job as DPS or not. Sometimes it is, but most of the time I see it it's just tanks being lazy/not wanting to bother with having responsibility outside of doing their rotation. This usually only happens in CT stuff though, I've never seen it happen in any SCoB turn I've queued for, even as DPS.

[Yumi_umi]

Ony time the class system worked was in pvp lol
Other than that, why just why.

[Poki]

Saw this thread and did high level roulette as a L50 gladiator (got lost city of amdapor) and got 3 commends at the end #gladlife

[OMEGA_HACK]

Screenshots or it didn't happen. Golden rule of the internet.

[Poki]

First screenshot shows 3 commends
Second screenshot shows combat log using cross skills only available to gladiator as we defeated the boss.

[TheRogueX]

From what I understand, they're not phasing classes out and will probably revisit them in a future expansion. 3.0's jobs aren't the 'way of the future;' they're just being called 'Extra Jobs.' I'm guessing this is a band-aid while they figure out how to fix the existing class/job armory system.