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    Aiot O'lein
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    NINs are so feeble tho... they can barely take a hit to the face and survive. Sure they have their passive perma walking speed improvement but that only emphatizes how weak their defenses are in comparison to their melee cousins...

    Assassinate should be renamed as Suicide :|
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    NINs are so feeble tho... they can barely take a hit to the face and survive. Sure they have their passive perma walking speed improvement but that only emphatizes how weak their defenses are in comparison to their melee cousins...

    Assassinate should be renamed as Suicide :|
    Perfect dodge is one of the strongest melee defensive cooldowns in the game, second wind, movement trait and shukichi take care of the rest. They also have the same HP and defenses as a MNK, they just lack fist of earth.
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Perfect dodge is one of the strongest melee defensive cooldowns in the game, second wind, movement trait and shukichi take care of the rest. They also have the same HP and defenses as a MNK, they just lack fist of earth.
    Perfect dodge is good yes, but it's only situational. Fists of Earth does wonders when you need it to, and the enhanced Second Wind helps in a pinch. I wouldn't count their movement and teleport as a defensive trait, but rather something to avoid damage entirely (which Monk has shoulder tackle). But we can both agree that Dragoon trumps both of them now :c they're secondary tanks.
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    NINs are so feeble tho... they can barely take a hit to the face and survive. Sure they have their passive perma walking speed improvement but that only emphatizes how weak their defenses are in comparison to their melee cousins...

    Assassinate should be renamed as Suicide :|
    Don't assassinate in cones and aoes?
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    NINs are so feeble tho... they can barely take a hit to the face and survive. Sure they have their passive perma walking speed improvement but that only emphatizes how weak their defenses are in comparison to their melee cousins...

    Assassinate should be renamed as Suicide :|
    MNK, DRG, and NIN all have the exact same MDEF. MNK and NIN have the exact same DEF; DRG has higher, yes. Yes, Fist of Earth MNK and DRG by default will be slightly more survivable but Perfect Dodge counters some of the deadliest situations in FCoB and I know any MNK would trade Fist of Earth for it in a heart beat since it sometimes lets you DPS more as well as survive more.

    Assassinate can be deadly if you time it wrong I guess, but it's a small price for having a lowly 40s CD on it compared to Mercy Stroke.
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