Final coil in duty finder

[Kaze3434]

Yes, there was. Considering that the person who already cleared for the week could not get loot (or even see the 1 chest) that the non clearing members got, that is considered a lockout. Once a player passes a turn, he or she could not see a chest from that turn for the rest of the week (the non clearing members could, but not the past clearer). You are unable to get loot by repeating or going back in a turn after completion.

others already said it, but that was based off of saved progression. with final coil in DF, there is no saved progression.

[Raikki]

Once a player passes a turn

There's no saved progression anymore, there's no such thing as "passing a turn for the week" once it switches to the duty finder system.

Yes, after it's put into duty finder this will be the case. I'm talking about her statement based on right now.

Sorry for the confusion, I was merely trying to distinguish the fact that the current system is progression based rather than loot based, so talking about a "loot lockout" (akin to CT) doesn't make sense under the context of access via DF since the system now does not care if you got loot or not, it's just designed to limit the total number of chests to no more than 1 per 4 players.

[Noahlimits]

others already said it, but that was based off of saved progression. with final coil in DF, there is no saved progression.

Yes, after it's put into duty finder this will be the case. I'm talking about her statement based on right now.

Her comment was that there was never a loot lockout. There currently is.

[Airget]

People are confused about look lockout because other coils didn't start with the ability to help others go through while effecting the amount of loot that dropped for x run.

Basically since that above scenario is null and void with the upcoming patch it also means that the whole concept of loot dropped based on amount of players who already completed it that week is gone to so they most likely thought it goes without saying that if you are free to do final coil as often as possible then it should go without saying that loot is also a free for all.

[Kuroyasha]

People are confused about look lockout because other coils didn't start with the ability to help others go through while effecting the amount of loot that dropped for x run.

Basically since that above scenario is null and void with the upcoming patch it also means that the whole concept of loot dropped based on amount of players who already completed it that week is gone to so they most likely thought it goes without saying that if you are free to do final coil as often as possible then it should go without saying that loot is also a free for all.

Exactly. People making it harder than it needs to be. Free loot farm for everyone! And free attempts at dps scores if you like to try that out too.

[SirTaint]

There was never a loot lockout. The limited ability to re-run a turn and get 0-1 chests based on how many people hadn't cleared it yet that week will not be a thing anymore after the patch because DF-based Coil has no progression saving.



There was never a weekly loot lockout in coil, it was only a limited number of chests based on saved progression. No saved progression means no chest limit.

I did T13 multiple times last week. Could only lot on the first 2 chest. While its not a WoD type lock out, its a lock out.

[Nutz]

I did T13 multiple times last week. Could only lot on the first 2 chest. While its not a WoD type lock out, its a lock out.

I see what you're saying and was thinking the same thing at first, but consider the logistics of putting FCoB in the DF and keeping that loot lockout. It would either have to match all first time clears or inadvertently penalize people for using DF. Imagine on your first clear for the week you're paired with 5 people who already cleared that week. No loot for you and you'd have no way of knowing until the boss was killed (unless people told you they cleared).

Not only does SE not want to create these sort of very frustrating situations, it would probably be even more frustrating to program the system to work that way. As such, there's almost certainly no more loot restrictions.

[SirTaint]

I see what you're saying and was thinking the same thing at first, but consider the logistics of putting FCoB in the DF and keeping that loot lockout. It would either have to match all first time clears or inadvertently penalize people for using DF. Imagine on your first clear for the week you're paired with 5 people who already cleared that week. No loot for you and you'd have no way of knowing until the boss was killed (unless people told you they cleared).

Not only does SE not want to create these sort of very frustrating situations, it would probably be even more frustrating to program the system to work that way. As such, there's almost certainly no more loot restrictions.

Currently it does tell you how many people cleared for the week before you enter. But yes your point makes sense.

[Arkista]

So does that mean Poetic weekly cap is going to be removed as well?

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

So does that mean Poetic weekly cap is going to be removed as well?

I would love that to happen, but probably not.