Help me understand t10 a bit

[PArcher]

I'm going to echo the likelihood that the cause is having two blm. But it's not necessarily the fact that you have two blm, but that either or both blm are...not that skilled. Note: I am assuming the entire group is similarly geared, 125-130 with zodiac or zeta (however, 125-129 should be where everyone is at this point), so gear isn't the issue.

You should parse or get a video of the fight and try to find the weak link, and figure out how to strengthen it (dummy fighting, more practicing while moving....worst comes to worst, replace)

[Alberel]

My personal measure for DPS in T10 was always matching each ring to a HP % threshold. When the last outer ring turns blue the boss has to be at LEAST below 20% HP. If it's not below that you probably won't make it.

I'd agree with the other posters in thinking the two BLMs may be the issue. I would suggest switching one of them for a SMN or a melee if possible. With that said it should still be entirely possible to clear the fight with your current party composition. I know a lot of players tend to get distracted by mechanics to the point that they stop casting whilst handling something (I'm guilty of this on SMN when first learning fights) so I would suggest that as a focus for improvement first of all.

[Sessurea]

Some blms fall to pieces when they have to move. You often see blm cited as the easiest dps to play due to their short and simple rotation, but the "always be casting" has to be learned through experience. BLM is definitely the hardest class to play in movement heavy fights. The striking dummy is least useful for BLM, out of all the dps classes. And t10 is stupid easy for melee dps. ( in fact all of final coil is pretty easy for them? xD ). Just to note also, t11 and 13 are the harder phases for BLM than t10, a lot of movement which can interrupt blms.

Your sure one of your BLMs wouldn't fancy playing a melee?

[Kyomagi]

i think a better question to ask OP is what % of health is the boss at when you hit enrage?

28% the last time he hit enrage. we had lvl 3 limit break but did not use it. think melee might have just died

[Risvertasashi]

Honestly... it's a DPS problem. I can't really say much more than that because of SE's hardline stance against measuring DPS.

Get some experienced raiders to check your group out in game, though. They'll be equipped and able to identify problems.

[Kyomagi]

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Your sure one of your BLMs wouldn't fancy playing a melee?

I have a fully upgraded/augemented BLM with zeta, ilvl 130. I am in the process of running WOD and buying ironworks gear to gear up my ninja. Probably gonna run shiva to get true ice daggers and shiva ring while i get zodiac (currently on atma >.>) Like i said, this group im willing to go a different class, however, when i go with my FC, im usually the black mage.


On a side note, someone noted that my dps was 260 in T9, i have read that is about average for a blm in t9 since we move around alot and dps drops during golem phase. Is that true?

[Kuwagami]

28% the last time he hit enrage. we had lvl 3 limit break but did not use it. think melee might have just died

that sounds awfully high. Are people constantly dieing on P3 ? slacking ? Waiting for mechanics to happen before doing anything ? With your assumed dps (6 & 8 stacks for adds), you should hit enrage, if ever, at 10% top, even without using LB3 in P3.

28% sounds like a dangerous 9 & 13 stacks like my group did on our first time ever reaching enrage (26% after using heal LB @10:25), before we started optimizing dps (until then, we were surviving to master mechanics and hit enrage)

On a side note, someone noted that my dps was 260 in T9, i have read that is about average for a blm in t9 since we move around alot and dps drops during golem phase. Is that true?

the BLM on the parse I posted averaged 330 dps on T9 when we passed it. Full lengh duration so the numbers drop by quite a bit during downtime (meteors and when nael goes for dives).

I can't say for sure, but assuming the number you told was with echo, I'd say you're averaging 280-290 on T10 (if the T9 is without echo, more around 320-330), which is kinda low for a zeta BLM. You'd like to work on your rotations maybe :/

[Risvertasashi]

Please don't take this the wrong way but... that's very low for BLM, especially with echo, even with the movement and pauses in t9.

As others have mentioned, a huge part of BLM is learning to manage movement and really make the most out of every moment... Learning to stutter step, use aetherial manipulation, etc. I don't main BLM or even play it really so a guide could give you much better tips and techniques. Check your FC, etc to see if there are any raiding BLMs that can give you tips as well.

[Kyomagi]

see my FC has never complained about my dps. So i assumed my rotation is fine.

I followed a guide for ninja and seems i got that rotation down pat. Is there a good guide for blm?

I basically start with thunder 3, Fire 3, Raging strikes, fire 1 until low mp then go either dual flare or transpose, bliz, thunder 3, fire 3, fire 1 ect

[Ghishlain]

Yeah, if you're soft enraging at 28%, there's definitely something amiss with your DPS, especially if all your DPS are as geared as you are.

As many have suggested, learning the nuances of BLM will help immensely. Alternatively, you may wish to have one of the BLMs try SMN as SMN tends to have an easier time with more movement intensive fights. SMN is in a poor spot at the moment, admittedly, but the breath of fresh air may help out immensely - only you'll know if you try that route.