Square, if the Egi's are going to stay, can you at least give them a model change?

[BlaiseArath]

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The 1/5th part is another thing I wanted to mention but forgot. A Summoner itself is usually the weak one, with the pets/summons being the main source of damage, in this game its the opposite because FFXIV SMN isn't really a Summoner, as I said in my previous post it feels more like a cheap knock off. It makes no sense with the consistency of the job.

I personally don't mind it feeling more like (X) or (X), I'd rather have something like Druid/Pokemon than our current Necro feel. Still, I can kinda see their reasoning for not making the summon the highest amount of damage from the SMN, if the pet died, the SMN would be useless until resummoned... It would also likely mean they would make pets more susceptible to damage to balance it.

[Roshidon1]

That's a good idea; I would be willing to try it out if they made pets easier to control. Currently you have a bunch of abilities for summoner, and an entire pet bar to hotkey if you want to truly optimize…that's a lot of buttons. There is also delay when you move your pet to click the move button and click again where to place him so I'm not sure how that would work on dodging aoes and stuff.

[Takfloyd]

The solution to this issue is actually simple and obvious and probably already on S-E's mind.

Let the Egis transform into the full-size Primal for their ultimate attack. And make said attacks way more powerful than the current ones.

That's all we would need to make every Summoner happy. And I take the fact that the Egis don't have access to abilities named after the signature attacks of the Primals as a sign that it might happen at some point.

[KisaiTenshi]

Keep in mind if you go back to V1.0 (not 1.2x) there was no summoner, and the magic classes were completely different. Like you could almost predict that THM was originally supposed to split into what is now SCH and SMN, while Conjurer was supposed to split into WHM and BLM, just from the arrangement of the magic skills.

However, if you use FFXI as a reference instead, the FFXI summoner was entirely dependent on the pets and ... pretty much completely different from what FFXIV has. So I suppose FFXIV "scaled down" the role of the summoner pets because of how gameplay is a bit more simplified with less commands and more action.

With this in mind, I think SE picked these "glowy blob" versions of the summoner pets so that players wouldn't mistake them for enemies. That said, the -egi's look really sloppy IMO. While I wasn't expecting a mini-primal, it probably would have made more sense for Garuda to actually look like Garuda, not some flying translucent lizard thing.

[melflomil]

SE it not to late to reconsider. Look at FF15! I know it is a different game but damn. Do you see that power in on attack just wow.

[Sequora]

I just want more interaction with the pet. The power of the summon comes from the summoner. I want more abilities like enkindle where I tell my pet to use some awesome ability and it does it. That is what will make me feel more like a summoner. I also want to replace bio bio II, miasma and miasma II with some kind of elemental dots. Poisons don't really fit summoner imo. SCH? Sure. They're tactical healers. They use poison magic to get the upper hand or whatever. Why not give FFXI helix spells to SMN? The visuals of SMN feel aesthetically weak to me. I don't feel powerful compared to say a black mage casting flare, or a monk using some crazy spin kick, when i'm slowly casting a poisons on the enemy while my pet auto-attacks. I'm still crossing my fingers that they've been reading these and are making changes for heavensward. If you look at the JP forums, they say the same things.

[Iromi]

Yeah, please consider SE! I also am interested in more interaction with the pet

[Hagen]

This has been going on for ages. SE must be aware of the issues, it is not just a minority, it is a constant complain even on JP forums. Making Enkindle recast time lower and making the Egi change to primal form during it would already do a lot. Make it a quick thing, like Ultima when uses it.

[Felessan]

Let the Egis transform into the full-size Primal for their ultimate attack. And make said attacks way more powerful than the current ones.

No, just no.
This is theme park MMO - a game focused on running, jumping, dodging and otherwise following mechanics. And oversized pet with flashy attack that blocks whole screen is not really something people want to see during critical moment.
It's already bad enough with LB3 Meteor where you have zero idea whats going on for several second, but at least it's rare and more or less predictable. And now you want to give this craziness to any summoner with relatively short cooldown.

[Bishop81]

On a side note, the Carbuncles are still my favor. :3

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