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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizlu View Post
    Since I got that from 4chan, I'm going also the mod route. And as with most things on that site, the source is unknown.

    Now, who's the one making the daily FFXIV threads!?
    Ahhh... 4chan. I go there sometimes, but then I usually get this funny sensation that makes me feel like I am losing brain cells, and then my eyes start to burn.

    Although, it's good to hear that someone is promoting our game over there. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    Some of this is probably different lines of thought, and some of it I do disagree. I do have a line with sexual humour jokes, and I don't make such jokes with people I don't know. The more "explicit" ones, I only make them with my husband. I don't consider making such jokes to others as proper, as I hold sex and sexual things to be sacred. Most people who know me think that I won't make any jokes like that at all. That's not actually true, but since most people don't seem to understand the line that I don't like to cross, I've found it better to just not go into it.


    If you are dressing "sexy", this in my mind means dressing to illicit a sexual response. In my mind, the only one you should be doing this for is your spouse. If you don't have one yet, then still, building a relationship primarily out of "attraction" is not a good thing. And yet this is exactly what many young people do, because they often don't understand any better, and this is the example that adults set before them as far as they perceive it. No, we can't raise other people's kids, but society as a whole does influence them, and we do have a responsibility as adults to them.

    Secondly... there may be exceptions, but overall, men are wired to think sexually. This isn't about stereotyping, it's just a fact. I don't mean that there aren't gentlemen with manners, but the fact is the more sexually you dress, the more they are going to think in a sexual way (overall). I'm not blaming them for that at all, but I will do my part by not dressing to the point of what our society would consider sexual. There are people who would go to the other extreme and ask me why I don't go cover myself from head to toe. There is a big difference between a pretty outfit and one that in our society, is meant to iilicit sexual attraction. Now, I will admit that a little bit of generation gap comes into play here, because what that is exactly does change over time.

    Going back to my taking responsibility statement, yes I can blame them, the same way I hold most media responsible for their part. I had respect for SE for not going too far into this area. At the same time, they couldn't sell it if there wasn't a market for it. Everyone is responsible for their own part in things. A mature adult does understand that what a person does, does affect other people, whether it be in a negative way, or a positive one.



    I never said anything about a one-piece, although I do appreciate a pretty one. That girl's pixelated boobs are about to fall out of that bikini. Between that, and the pose in the coatee and hose, if you don't think SE isn't pushing sexualization... I actually really don't want to burst your bubble. If fun was the only idea behind it, they could have advertised some different alternate swimsuits at the very least. I more than agree there is a difference between dressing slutty and dressing pretty. But this is not one of them. I do very much like to dress attractive. Waist fitting dresses with flowing skirts are my favorite. Obviously that wouldn't work for the beach. But offering a bikini that actually looks like it will hold you in properly, I think isn't too much to ask.

    As for moral boost, if a woman really feel the need to dress slutty, (meaning in a way that attracts the sexual type attention of others), I would think there might be other problems at work that really have nothing to do with it. Ones that won't be solved by dressing that way.

    It's exactly why I won't be participating. I don't play lalafalla, and SE isn't offering any other alternatives. I'm very childishly immature about a great many things, but I am very serious in the areas that matter. I take this matter seriously, because it is screwing up our society.

    I just respectfully disagree in general. I believe that many mistakes in life can be avoided, but they require maintenance and care, like anything worthwhile. It's really difficult to maintain things all by yourself. It's much better if you have a society and support network that helps you out. Many kids out there these days do not have that.
    one thing shes said here that you cannot seriously dissagree with is... the female characters titties are just about to fall out the bottom of that top.. one simple "Jump" and its game over for boob coverage. Yes women wear bikinis but this one is pretty skimpy in the boob area. How may cchicks at the beach do you see with the bottom of their titts showing? I'm not sayign I dont like to see myself some titties though . I'm just saying shes not far off, these bikini tops are very skimpy compared to what you see at the beach and or the public pool. And seriously? that dirty pose the miqote does? Its dirty.. dont act like its not. Now how do i tell my girlfriend she needs to perfect it IRL? ANyway dont be a bunch of idiots.. If that bathing suit top and that pose wasnt made to make you start thinking dirty then the US president is not black. And if you realy dont think dirty after seeing that? your an idiot. Im waiting for the pixel nipples, wouldnt bother me . Plenty of countrys are ok with walking around topless as a woman. Is it proper? no. but dont try hide what is happenign here.. I mean comon.. go to the miners guild and you will be verbaly raped by the NPCs. Again, im not saying it bothers me, im just saying everyone trying to say these bathing suits and the pose that has basicly come with it... are not dirty... are flat out lieing.

    Also, to her other point.. you can be attractive without showing off the goods. Many women that feel the need to have 50% of their titts out for the world to see are insecure with themselves. But again, im not complaining about boobage, I'm just simply pointing out that YOU ARE ALL LIARS WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS WASNT MEANT TO GET YOU THINKING the way your THINKING YOU DIRTY LIARS! Sex attracts, its a good and easy strategy. When your tryign to make top dollar... why not?

    I love female nakedness
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    Last edited by Morticous; 08-10-2011 at 01:54 PM. Reason: Because I really really really do.
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    one thing shes said here that you cannot seriously dissagree with is... the female characters titties are just about to fall out the bottom of that top.. one simple "Jump" and its game over for boob coverage. Yes women wear bikinis but this one is pretty skimpy in the boob area. How may cchicks at the beach do you see with the bottom of their titts showing? I'm not sayign I dont like to see myself some titties though . I'm just saying shes not far off, these bikini tops are very skimpy compared to what you see at the beach and or the public pool. And seriously? that dirty pose the miqote does? Its dirty.. dont act like its not. Now how do i tell my girlfriend she needs to perfect it IRL? ANyway dont be a bunch of idiots.. If that bathing suit top and that pose wasnt made to make you start thinking dirty then the US president is not black. And if you realy dont think dirty after seeing that? your an idiot. Im waiting for the pixel nipples, wouldnt bother me . Plenty of countrys are ok with walking around topless as a woman. Is it proper? no. but dont try hide what is happenign here.. I mean comon.. go to the miners guild and you will be verbaly raped by the NPCs. Again, im not saying it bothers me, im just saying everyone trying to say these bathing suits and the pose that has basicly come with it... are not dirty... are flat out lieing.

    Also, to her other point.. you can be attractive without showing off the goods. Many women that feel the need to have 50% of their titts out for the world to see are insecure with themselves. But again, im not complaining about a boobage, I'm just simply pointing out that YOU ARE ALL LIARS WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS WASNT MEANT TO GET YOU THINKING the way your THINKING YOU DIRTY LIARS! Sex attracts, its a good and easy strategy. When your tryign to make top dollar... why not?
    Again, just because YOU have dirty thoughts, doesn't mean everyone else does. And the top isn't 'dirty'. Just because the cups are held together above the cleavage rather than below doesn't change much. It's hardly showing any more than a normal bikini top would.

    Plus, this is a game. The characters don't have to worry about their tits falling out, unless they are programmed to do so.

    IMO, and I'm not saying this for perverted reasons, women should be aloud to go topless just as men are. We all have breasts, just because women have fat on theirs doesn't mean they are much different or should be some form of taboo. Plus, a lot of women don't even need the support of a bra and would love to feel free like men can.

    The only reason people freak out, whether in a 'good' or bad way, is because society has taught us to think that way.

    Society is evil and retards our minds and perception.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    I agree with you. SE went too far.. This is not Dead or alive beach volly..
    FF always has kept things nice. Now they make it a lil bit into a game where all pervs will come together.
    There are even minors playing this game.
    I'm a minor. I'm technically not an adult yet. But I don't go crying for my mum at a peeked out boob or a bikini that exposes 90% flesh. I've seen worse in music MVs and on the beach. If you're still so narrow-minded and locked into the past generation's view on decency and clothing, well, reality check, this is the 21st century with the internet. If you insist on these Old Bailey demonstrations where women must be covered up in fancy gowns or the archaic rituals of forcing men and women to dress up in more clothing than they have skin, I recommend you get desensitized quick.

    Besides, what's wrong with showing a bit of flesh? Our human body is like that. Why should we be ashamed to show it off, especially since we still hold some level of decency? And ESPECIALLY since this is a game. Flesh is flesh, its not like a dodo's going to jump out of the bikini or trunks and ambush you. I suppose you'll rather be seen hanging your wash naked than run down the streets in a bikini, hmm.
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    lol @ some of these comments.. I can't even believe people are upset over swim gear in a game cause it shows to much skin. just LOL
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    one thing shes said here that you cannot seriously dissagree with is... the female characters titties are just about to fall out the bottom of that top.. one simple "Jump" and its game over for boob coverage. Yes women wear bikinis but this one is pretty skimpy in the boob area. How may cchicks at the beach do you see with the bottom of their titts showing? I'm not sayign I dont like to see myself some titties though . I'm just saying shes not far off, these bikini tops are very skimpy compared to what you see at the beach and or the public pool. And seriously? that dirty pose the miqote does? Its dirty.. dont act like its not. Now how do i tell my girlfriend she needs to perfect it IRL? ANyway dont be a bunch of idiots.. If that bathing suit top and that pose wasnt made to make you start thinking dirty then the US president is not black. And if you realy dont think dirty after seeing that? your an idiot. Im waiting for the pixel nipples, wouldnt bother me . Plenty of countrys are ok with walking around topless as a woman. Is it proper? no. but dont try hide what is happenign here.. I mean comon.. go to the miners guild and you will be verbaly raped by the NPCs. Again, im not saying it bothers me, im just saying everyone trying to say these bathing suits and the pose that has basicly come with it... are not dirty... are flat out lieing.

    Also, to her other point.. you can be attractive without showing off the goods. Many women that feel the need to have 50% of their titts out for the world to see are insecure with themselves. But again, im not complaining about boobage, I'm just simply pointing out that YOU ARE ALL LIARS WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS WASNT MEANT TO GET YOU THINKING the way your THINKING YOU DIRTY LIARS! Sex attracts, its a good and easy strategy. When your tryign to make top dollar... why not?

    I love female nakedness
    This post contradicts with itself all the time.
    I don't "feel" dirty because my character looks "dirty" (by your definition), I like what I see and I find it fun.
    What I don't understand is at what point this whole thing is supposed to be "wrong" and by who's standrads?
    I don't find it wrong and thats the end of it.

    If you find it wrong or offensive go quit, stop spoiling other people's fun cause you can't accept that things cannot always go your way in life.


    EDIT: It's really funny when I think that other people may feel dirty about my character :P
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    Last edited by Meleena; 08-10-2011 at 08:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miqokini View Post
    IMO, and I'm not saying this for perverted reasons, women should be aloud to go topless just as men are. We all have breasts, just because women have fat on theirs doesn't mean they are much different or should be some form of taboo. Plus, a lot of women don't even need the support of a bra and would love to feel free like men can.

    The only reason people freak out, whether in a 'good' or bad way, is because society has taught us to think that way.

    Society is evil and retards our minds and perception.
    You don't know how many hot summers I've wished it was socially acceptable to go walking around topless like men are "allowed to." Where I live I'm legally allowed to.. but the one reason I don't is because of the stares, comments, and likely harassment I'll get.
    I wish female breasts weren't made out to be some sexual playtoy. I wish we women had equality.
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    Last edited by Nabiri; 08-10-2011 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    You don't know how many hot summers I've wished it was socially acceptable to go walking around topless like men are "allowed to." Where I live I'm legally allowed to.. but the one reason I don't is because of the stares and comments I'll get.
    I wish female breasts weren't made out to be some sexual playtoy. I wish we women had equality.
    The continued evolution of the human race is dependant upon boobies being fun to look at and play with. You should be grateful for your ability to contribute.

    And why would you want to be equal, when in this case you are clearly superior to males?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    I'm a minor. I'm technically not an adult yet. But I don't go crying for my mum at a peeked out boob or a bikini that exposes 90% flesh. I've seen worse in music MVs and on the beach. If you're still so narrow-minded and locked into the past generation's view on decency and clothing, well, reality check, this is the 21st century with the internet. If you insist on these Old Bailey demonstrations where women must be covered up in fancy gowns or the archaic rituals of forcing men and women to dress up in more clothing than they have skin, I recommend you get desensitized quick.

    Besides, what's wrong with showing a bit of flesh? Our human body is like that. Why should we be ashamed to show it off, especially since we still hold some level of decency? And ESPECIALLY since this is a game. Flesh is flesh, its not like a dodo's going to jump out of the bikini or trunks and ambush you. I suppose you'll rather be seen hanging your wash naked than run down the streets in a bikini, hmm.
    Lol before you talk maybe get some exp in life first.. You still laugh with the word "fart" :-)
    You don't get the point.
    FF is unique.. By doing this they went to the road of all the normal MMORPG's.
    Now FFXIV is just a normal MMORPG. It's not FF unique anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    Lol before you talk maybe get some exp in life first.. You still laugh with the word "fart" :-)
    You don't get the point.
    FF is unique.. By doing this they went to the road of all the normal MMORPG's.
    Now FFXIV is just a normal MMORPG. It's not FF unique anymore.
    I'm 31 and I still laugh at the word "fart".

    This kid is spot on. Quit being such a curmudgeon.
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