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  1. #11
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxelDH View Post
    The Jumbo Cactpot costs 100 MGP to enter, not gil. So RMT won't come into the equation.
    You can buy up to 500 MGP for 5000 gil - even if I consider it unlikely but some crazy people could indeed just buy 500 MGP, buy 5 tickets (if price stays the same) and repeat (which would mean ofc that they'll never have more than 500 MGP - except for "payday" ofc when they manage to turn all there gil into MGP at once... no need to "farm" any MGP since you can simple buy tickets which will give you at least 117 if you turn them in early... bäm! potencial tons of MGP "bought" with gil - and yep, I do know that this is unlikely but it would be possible)

    That said I dont really care about the limitation since I treated it more like a game so I wouldnt buy more than one anyways. I could imagine though that it could be difficult, gamewise, to keep track of to many tickets and numbers you got. Atm its that tiny little numer in your GS-profile - if its unlimited you'd need something like our friends or blacklist for lotterynumbers xD So maybe, I dont know, limit to 10 or so? So people who really wants to could raise there chance a bit... but I'm pretty sure some sort of limitation will always be need - and if its just because of technical stuff...
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    Last edited by Vidu; 03-16-2015 at 10:47 PM.

  2. #12
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    In real life the lottery pays out less than it takes in, the game is the opposite. Should that be addressed as well?
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    snip...
    See this is why they put limitations (already in the OP), Thus taking any RMT actions out.

    I've already stated in the OP and then just edited to make it loud and clear. I didn't ask for an unlimited amount of ticket sales. I proposed to keep the 1 ticket option (of course) add two more options 1 ticket with 5 lines and 1 ticket with 10 lines. You would only be able to buy 1 of the 3, not any combination. So you wouldn't be able to buy 10- single tickets or 5- singles and 1- 5 line ticket. Again 5k gil isn't going to drive up RMT activity or sales.

    Also I already stated in the OP that even if you bought a 10 line ticket you would only win the top prize making every other line Void. So players wouldn't be able to hack the lottery and find out this weeks numbers are 1234 and buy 10 lines of 1234 and win over 10 mil. Also you would only get one consolation regardless of the amount of lines, You're buying one ticket after all.



    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    In real life the lottery pays out less than it takes in, the game is the opposite. Should that be addressed as well?
    10k tickets would have to be sold on one server to equal the number one prize. Last week on my server wasn't even close. I'm not talking about the amount of GP from every server, just one. Again this is going by my server, I don't know if 10k tickets have been bought on other servers in a week.

    And even then its not an issue, Top prize is fine where it sits regardless of how many tickets are sold.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 03-16-2015 at 11:47 PM.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    10k tickets would have to be sold on one server to equal the number one prize. Last week on my server wasn't even close. I'm not talking about the amount of GP from every server, just one. Again this is going by my server, I don't know if 10k tickets have been bought on other servers in a week.

    And even then its not an issue, Top prize is fine where it sits regardless of how many tickets are sold.
    For every 10k tickets sold, on average you would have:
    1 jackpot winner, more than 10k times the the ticket cost
    9 2nd prize winners, at over 1k times the ticket cost
    90 3rd prize winners, at over 100 times the ticket cost
    900 4th prize winners, at over 10 times the ticket cost
    9000 consolation prize winners, at close to (sometimes above) the ticket cost

    Total payout is close to 5x the amount taken in on tickets, on average
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  5. #15
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    It's an interesting idea, but I kind of like it the way it is, personally; simple, 'better' (my opinion) than the real world versions.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Jumbo Cactpot needs to be like lottery in real life.
    Real life lottery is just a poor mans tax. Sure a minority hits big, but for everyone else they are just more broke than before they went in. Atleast I can make my money back real quick in this place. Every ticket is a winner and if I get less than what I spent on the ticket, one hand of TT will fix that.
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  7. #17
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    I think folks are over complicating something that isn't intended to be complicated and seeing it as mandatory to win the jackpot. The lottery is not intended to be won by all/most/some players. It's intended to be won by a very select few, if even anyone at all... just like the real lottery. It's a game, but it's not like the point of the game is to play the Jumbo Cactpot and be sure to win. If they ever decide to make it a situation where they expect every single player to win, then yay? If not... oh well? I'm not gonna lose sleep or contemplate suicide over not ever winning the Jumbo Cactpot or something.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I don't know about you guys but I want that Cloud card and Fenrir mount....
    Maybe change it to daily instead of weekly? It can make the 192yrs to 3yrs wihout changing the game rule.
    Or, let us exhange all Leve tickets to cactpot tickets at anytime, I think it will make the leve tickets very useful! ^^;
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    Last edited by Nicobo; 03-17-2015 at 11:40 AM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I don't know about you guys but I want that Cloud card and Fenrir mount.
    So in other words you want to break the jumbo cactpot so you can attain everything that is expensive now and never go back to the gold saucer ever again...
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    So in other words you want to break the jumbo cactpot so you can attain everything that is expensive now and never go back to the gold saucer ever again...
    Why not? Jumbo kackpott is breaking Gold Saucer as a Fun Park. Why not breaking it to restore Gold Saucer? Or just let Gold Saucer die, as it is doing at the moment.

    Don't know, what they will change, just hope, that it is really a change, else, one of the most fun things in FF7 will become an empty place in FF14. Poor GS.
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