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    People turned it to crap.

    EDIT- LOOKS LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS LOUDLY AS POSSIBLE, CAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T READING. I'M NOT ASKING TO BUY AN UNLIMTED AMOUNT OF TICKET'S. NOT 10K TICKETS, NOT 1K, NOT EVEN 100! 1 TICKET WITH 5 LINES OR 1 TICKET WITH 10 LINES.

    First off I know its been three weeks, but dang!

    Jumbo Cactpot needs to be like lottery in real life. We can go to the shop on the corner and buy 100 lottery tickets if we want. But we can only buy one a week in the game. Its a 1:10k chance to win. There are even some achievements tied to it as well. I could buy 1 ticket with multiple lines.

    We should really be able to have more chances a week. You could add ticket options. Lets break this down for those who think RMTS would make bank. My idea is 3 tickets, you either buy a ticket with 1 line, 5 lines, or 10 lines its that simple. You wouldn't be able to buy a 5 line ticket + 5- 1 line tickets you get to pick one. I put 500-750 GP on 5 line ticket for a reason and same with 1k-1.5k on 10 line ticket, Sure we can buy 500GP for 5k, But you would have to earn an extra 250-1kGP, You can't buy more than 5k GIL worth of GP, I've said it already if someone cannot afford 5k gil once a week and has to resort to buying it from RMTs then they are playing the game wrong.

    100GP-1 Ticket with one line, Currently what we have.
    500-750GP-1 Ticket with 5 lines. 750 combats RMT
    1000-1500GP-1 Ticket with 10 lines. 1500 also combats RMT

    If you buy a 5 line ticket, The line with the most matches wins and you win that much and everything else is void. So that stops anyone who could possibly cheat. If someone was able to hack and find out the winning numbers are going to be 1234, they could buy a 10 line ticket with all 1234, But they are only going to receive one top prize and the other 9 are void.

    Winning Numbers 1234
    1. 1234- highest of the 5 wins
    2. 0234-void even with 3 numbers
    3. 8634-void even with 2 numbers
    4. 9844-void even with 1 number
    5. 4321-void.

    Consolation prize would still be the same, no extra because you have more tickets.

    I don't know about you guys but I want that Cloud card and Fenrir mount.

    So in my suggestion I've taken care of any RMT actions (buying gil), I've taken care of cheating. So the real question is why not? And don't say RMTs or people cheating, cause that is addressed and take out of the equation.

    I would like to address the elephant in the room who was talking about "Working as intended". The chances are 1:10k a week to earn top prize, The chances might as well be 1:100 million. There is no way humanly possible aside from luck and cheating to win. Sure there are only 10k combinations 0000-9999, but it would take you 192 years to even do those combinations, Even then there is no guarantee you'll win. Increasing the odds 10:10k is a lot better. Does it hurt the game to increase the odds? Nope, not at all. Is it game breaking? Again no.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    You can buy up to 500 MGP for 5000 gil - even if I consider it unlikely but some crazy people could indeed just buy 500 MGP, buy 5 tickets (if price stays the same) and repeat (which would mean ofc that they'll never have more than 500 MGP - except for "payday" ofc when they manage to turn all there gil into MGP at once... no need to "farm" any MGP since you can simple buy tickets which will give you at least 117 if you turn them in early... bäm! potencial tons of MGP "bought" with gil - and yep, I do know that this is unlikely but it would be possible)

    That said I dont really care about the limitation since I treated it more like a game so I wouldnt buy more than one anyways. I could imagine though that it could be difficult, gamewise, to keep track of to many tickets and numbers you got. Atm its that tiny little numer in your GS-profile - if its unlimited you'd need something like our friends or blacklist for lotterynumbers xD So maybe, I dont know, limit to 10 or so? So people who really wants to could raise there chance a bit... but I'm pretty sure some sort of limitation will always be need - and if its just because of technical stuff...
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    See this is why they put limitations (already in the OP), Thus taking any RMT actions out.

    I've already stated in the OP and then just edited to make it loud and clear. I didn't ask for an unlimited amount of ticket sales. I proposed to keep the 1 ticket option (of course) add two more options 1 ticket with 5 lines and 1 ticket with 10 lines. You would only be able to buy 1 of the 3, not any combination. So you wouldn't be able to buy 10- single tickets or 5- singles and 1- 5 line ticket. Again 5k gil isn't going to drive up RMT activity or sales.

    Also I already stated in the OP that even if you bought a 10 line ticket you would only win the top prize making every other line Void. So players wouldn't be able to hack the lottery and find out this weeks numbers are 1234 and buy 10 lines of 1234 and win over 10 mil. Also you would only get one consolation regardless of the amount of lines, You're buying one ticket after all. .
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    Last edited by Arkista; 03-30-2015 at 08:09 AM.

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    why do you want to change something which works fine?

    theres a 1:10.000 chance to win, its working as intended

    btw, why should japanese devs adjust to american rules? their game, their rules, just deal with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    why do you want to change something which works fine?

    theres a 1:10.000 chance to win, its working as intended

    btw, why should japanese devs adjust to american rules? their game, their rules, just deal with it
    By fine you mean it could take years to win the jackpot, around 192 years....... Also I'm pretty sure you can buy more than one ticket in japan.
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    noone in this game has to win the jackpot

    you'll never win a jackpot in your real life, do you start a petition there, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    noone in this game has to win the jackpot

    you'll never win a jackpot in your real life, do you start a petition there, too?
    Here's the problem though. IT'S A GAAAAAAAME!

    I seriously don't get why there are people so adamantly against making something attainable, instead of nearly impossible like it is now.
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    At this point it's faster to make a bunch of alts and play the lottery every week, and then when one alt eventually wins you level that one back to the state of your current character, and replace your main. That would be faster and more reliable way of getting the High Roller title then waiting for it on your main.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisengrim View Post
    I seriously don't get why there are people so adamantly against making something attainable, instead of nearly impossible like it is now.
    how should they make it more attainable? its still a lottery

    if you can purchase more than 1 ticket someone will just spend 10 mil gil to buy 10k tickets and the whole forum will complain even more, because of rmt, buying mgp with no effort, only rich people can win and whatever

    everyone is actually equal and has the same chances, some have luck, some not, but do you know? its a lottery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisengrim View Post
    I seriously don't get why there are people so adamantly against making something attainable, instead of nearly impossible like it is now.
    It's what happens when this game is your source of self esteem. If everybody has it, they don't feel special anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    how should they make it more attainable? its still a lottery

    if you can purchase more than 1 ticket someone will just spend 10 mil gil to buy 10k tickets and the whole forum will complain even more, because of rmt, buying mgp with no effort, only rich people can win and whatever

    everyone is actually equal and has the same chances, some have luck, some not, but do you know? its a lottery
    The Jumbo Cactpot costs 100 MGP to enter, not gil. So RMT won't come into the equation.

    So if you bought 10,000 tickets to cover every possible combination and guarantee a win, that would cost 1 million MGP (Roughly what you would win from the jackpot!). Although I don't know if you could also claim a bunch of smaller prizes too. I guess that could be pretty broken...

    In any case, I think the amount of time it would take to sit there buying 10,000 tickets would probably be better off spent farming the Indolent Imperial!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    how should they make it more attainable? its still a lottery

    if you can purchase more than 1 ticket someone will just spend 10 mil gil to buy 10k tickets and the whole forum will complain even more, because of rmt, buying mgp with no effort, only rich people can win and whatever

    everyone is actually equal and has the same chances, some have luck, some not, but do you know? its a lottery
    I don't see why you're so against them adding in a few more chances. As I put in the OP something like 5-10 tickets a week would be max, Is that honestly game breaking to you? You cant buy more than 5k gil worth of GP anyways, Honestly if you cannot afford 5k gil in GP a week on say 5 tickets then you are doing something wrong in this game. RMTs would not have a surge in their sales, If SE was to implement a system to add more than one ticket.

    I checked my OP and no where did I say they should sale a ticket for 1 million GIL/GP. So I don't really know where this 10mil gil figure you used came from. I said 1k-1.5kGP for a ticket with 10 chances. I also said even if you bought a 10 line ticket you could only win one prize, So if someone somehow magically figured out next weeks drawing was 1234 they couldn't buy a 10 line ticket with all 1234s and win over 10 mil GP.

    Again I really don't understand why adding in more tickets would break the system(you seem to think so). Do the math 1:10k with one ticket a week.......Look I'm not asking to win every week here, But it would be nice to get a win. There's even an achievement for winning so much.


    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    noone in this game has to win the jackpot

    you'll never win a jackpot in your real life, do you start a petition there, too?
    I've won 1st place in Mog Bonanza FFXI in 2010 it was either the Kclub or 120mil(was other stuff too), I went with 120mil. Also I have won the lottery IRL, I won 100k on a scratch 10 years ago, After the state took their taxes, I ended up with around 75k not bad for a 20 year old gamer. Lets just say that didn't even last a year.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 03-16-2015 at 10:52 PM.

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