Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
Alot of people are confusing the rate of sp with the ease of gaining it.

The core argument is that for no effort beyond accepting the leves and running to where they start he got 36k sp. He did 4 leves in an hour. that's 15 minutes a leve. The problem isn't that he got 36k sp... the problem is that any bot that can spam one input could do the same.

If you think it's ok that the casual content is so insultingly easy... what is wrong with you?

The fights didn't require skill, they didn't require ability, they just required he shoot things... usually only once.

To go on and on about how leves are fine the way they are really worries me. Because leves are not fine the way they are... and of course the answer isn't to remove them or to nerf the sp gain... the answer is to make it an acceptable challenge. Make people work for that sp. And no the work doesn't need to take more than half an hour. It doesn't need to be tedious (frankly, it already is pretty tedious.) No one, ever, should have the option of mindlessly killing super weak mobs for sp gain. Super weak mobs that give pretty damn decent sp, too.

That is where the complaint stems from... its not saying the sp needs to be nerfed... but the mobs need to be buffed. He was fighting mobs that were 15 ranks higher than he was. And killing many of them in one hit. I can't believe I have to keep saying this.

They don't need to change the sp returns at all... they do need to make a mob that is FIFTEEN RANKS HIGHER THAN YOU an acceptable challenge.
Leve mobs are just as difficult as non-leve mobs. So perhaps your argument is that the entire game is too easy. That might be a valid argument, but it is hardly a situation exclusive to leves.