4 guildleves in less than 1 hour=1/3rd of the way from 49-50?

[elreed]

go kill some raptors or 60+ mobs to level up faster if thats what u want, leves are fine

[Meleena]

I agree, leves are fine.

[Rimmer]

I agree, leves are fine.

Indeed, they are fine. Now let them get on with adding some new content.

[Deceptistar]

how decent have the leves become atm? >.>
havnt had a chance to login yet

[Irana]

Wow ppl really cna find ANYTHING to bitch about...

[Wynn]

I can't believe he said if every party member doesn't have the leve they are leeching <.< They aren't leeching, they are allowing you to rank up the star level for even more xp and then, you know, helping you kill said stronger monsters. Is this mentality due to the whole fail leves thing in BW? So wrong.

[SAMINUS]

So soloing a leve at the difficulty for what... band? Which I believe is supposed to be atleast 3 players doesn't seem too easy for you?

Not for group play anymore. band 3 star just means more difficult for solo play, which guild leves are geared towards now.

[Arcell]

I can't believe he said if every party member doesn't have the leve they are leeching <.< They aren't leeching, they are allowing you to rank up the star level for even more xp and then, you know, helping you kill said stronger monsters. Is this mentality due to the whole fail leves thing in BW? So wrong.

That and what's wrong with letting a few people tag along on leves if your party isn't full? I mean I dunno, in my LS at least we let anyone in the right range come provided the party isn't full up yet.

[Ferth]

Alot of people are confusing the rate of sp with the ease of gaining it.

The core argument is that for no effort beyond accepting the leves and running to where they start he got 36k sp. He did 4 leves in an hour. that's 15 minutes a leve. The problem isn't that he got 36k sp... the problem is that any bot that can spam one input could do the same.

If you think it's ok that the casual content is so insultingly easy... what is wrong with you?

The fights didn't require skill, they didn't require ability, they just required he shoot things... usually only once.

To go on and on about how leves are fine the way they are really worries me. Because leves are not fine the way they are... and of course the answer isn't to remove them or to nerf the sp gain... the answer is to make it an acceptable challenge. Make people work for that sp. And no the work doesn't need to take more than half an hour. It doesn't need to be tedious (frankly, it already is pretty tedious.) No one, ever, should have the option of mindlessly killing super weak mobs for sp gain. Super weak mobs that give pretty damn decent sp, too.

That is where the complaint stems from... its not saying the sp needs to be nerfed... but the mobs need to be buffed. He was fighting mobs that were 15 ranks higher than he was. And killing many of them in one hit. I can't believe I have to keep saying this.

They don't need to change the sp returns at all... they do need to make a mob that is FIFTEEN RANKS HIGHER THAN YOU an acceptable challenge.

[Bigglesworth]

keep in mind too that leve parties go much faster now that we must WIN them and not fail. Before we would be at dunesfolk all freaking day, because we had 8 ppl who had it twice, which means 16 total dunesfolks, which means 16/4 links equals 4 dunesfolk runs. Now we can just succeed and move on to the next set.