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    Quote Originally Posted by Brynne View Post
    While I agree with this sentiment, there are two things I really want to say:

    1. Balmung's problem with housing doesn't have much to do with the discussion about Masamune's problem with housing, really. I see where you're coming from, but "they would love to have your problem" comes off as kind of dismissive.
    It was also mentioned after a long list of ''could you please actually read posts''. That the person I responded to still hasnt answered a single one of. Rather then dismissive, it was a provocation to get him to actually respond to either
    a) my arguments
    b) my corrections of what he thought I wrote, but didnt.

    After thinking about it, I realise his only intent was to goad(troll) me into responding to him. It makes sense then that he intentionally ''misunderstands'' the points I try to make, despite me clarifying them afterwards as well. And that he would finish it off with a ''don't be that kind of person'' and the like. Fool's on me for allowing myself to be flamebaited, I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brynne View Post
    2. The fact that the bad economy is the core of the problem doesn't change the fact that housing is unaffordable for the vast majority of the active population (I wouldn't doubt if there were some rich inactives left over from 1.0 skewing the data on how much gil is in circulation there). I don't know if there's anything SE can do about the bad economy (offer free server transfers off?) but they CAN fix the housing price tier, so I think it's completely reasonable to ask for that.
    The vast majority of what active population? Your servers? Masamunes? All servers?
    Housing is very much affordable on my server. However, my server does not have as bad an economy as Masamune does.


    Why would it be reasonable to ask SE to change house prices, but not so; to ask them to fix a servers economy? They have the power to do either.
    Fixing housing prices only benefits those that a) want a house, (a minority) and b) dont have the gil for it.

    Whereas fixing the servers economy would benefit most of the servers population (except the very rich, a minority):
    including the above mentioned people that want a house and dont have the gil for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    The vast majority of what active population? Your servers? Masamunes? All servers?
    Housing is very much affordable on my server. However, my server does not have as bad an economy as Masamune does.
    I was referring to Masamune's population.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Why would it be reasonable to ask SE to change house prices, but not so; to ask them to fix a servers economy? They have the power to do either.
    I don't think it's unreasonable to ask them to do either, or both. Fixing a server's economy is presumably more complicated than simply changing the tier of pricing on houses. The first question you have to ask is how you're going to fix the server's economy. I don't know how SE can actually do that (unless they go for a blanket solution that's likely to leave people very unhappy, like a mass reset on levels/gil). Maybe you have some thoughts? It might be a useful thread to start in its own right.

    Adjusting the price tier for housing is a much simpler thing, I would think, and easier to ask for since it's quite specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Fixing housing prices only benefits those that a) want a house, (a minority) and b) dont have the gil for it.
    Whereas fixing the servers economy would benefit most of the servers population (except the very rich, a minority):
    including the above mentioned people that want a house and dont have the gil for it.
    I don't think that the fact that it helps only a specific portion of the population makes it an unreasonable thing to ask for. There are threads about wanting specific items for housing, threads about housing being sold out, threads about lighting in houses - those only impact specific portions of the population as well. All reasonable things to ask for.

    I do agree that it would be more efficient to fix the economy - but as mentioned above, that's a larger problem that will likely take a bit of time to sort out. In the short term, I think that small fixes to alleviate the pressures on players that come with the poor economy are certainly worth asking for as well.
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