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[treuhavik]

Lominsan lore would have us believe that it was the legendary Thalaos, one of two great serpents chained to a wandering island called Swallowtail Roam so they wouldn't drown the world.

Rewatchin' all the 1.0 cutscenes, I found that Sisipu states it was but one serpent bound by Swallowtail Roam. What's with that?

Doesn't this legend also contradict Erik's creation story?

There was the birth of Althyk, god of time among the Twelve, and in turn, His younger sister Nymeia, goddess of fate. And then there was water, and through it the Silvertear Falls came to be at the center of all that was. Here was the source not only of water, but the fount of all magic as well. Now, when water came into being, so too did the great dragon Midgardsormr. Brother Time and Sister Fate, fearing the Falls might fall into the hands of evil, ordered Midgardsormr their protector and warden. Much later, with the arrival of man, would Midgardsormr be worshipped as the guardian deity of Silvertear Falls.

[Anonymoose]

Rewatchin' all the 1.0 cutscenes, I found that Sisipu states it was but one serpent bound by Swallowtail Roam. What's with that?

I wondered that myself. I don't think Perykos is a recent addition to the story, because there was a cave in Cassiopeia Hollow with two giant serpent skeletons in it and that room was called Thalaos and Perykos. This continues in ARR with the sightseeing log.

Though there is no proof to support the claim, rumor has these sun-bleached remains of a long-dead denizen of the deep are those of one of the legendary twin sea serpents believed to have been unleashed by the Navigator, Llymlaen at the dawn of eras to fill the empty seas (the other being Perykos).

Why knows why Perykos keeps taking a back seat.

Doesn't this legend also contradict Erik's creation story?

If taken literally. In 2.5, Minfilia considers that Midgardsormr's origin with Althyk and Nymeia may have just been with Hydaelyn, after all. If Althyk and Nymeia were both Hydaelyn, perhaps Llymlaen was also Hydaelyn, and then all the waters come from Hydaelyn, lol. I've figured for a while that the sea serpent had some connection to Midgardsormr; they have strikingly similar anatomy. Also, since ARR launched, there's been another interesting progression with serpent lore that I've kept my eye on in case it could explain this.

Prepare your mind for possible blowage.

The Little Thalaos is a catchable, serpentlike fish that looks a lot like the 1.0 serpent. The Nepto Dragon is thought to be a very large specimen of this fish, made large by the events surrounding a Calamity. In turn, the Nepto Dragon is a fishable version of the "Oceanus" serpents now seen throughout the game, including Keeper of the Lake (where it is known as Son of the Keeper), as well as the World of Darkness (where it is known as Jormungand, another version of the name Midgardsormr). The art book also muses on that these serpents all bear some resemblance to the Sahagin, wondering if perhaps they shared a common ancestor.

So, that opens up a few possibilities for the 1.0 serpent.

Was it just a giant "little thalaos" hinting at the coming Calamity? Or is he one of Midgardsormr's progeny? Can it commune with Sahagin? Is that why it seemed to be chasing down parts of the Key? Or was it linked to the Key on its own? These are the only questions I've not obtained answers to in the 1.0 Lominsan introduction - the serpent's origin/allegiance and the true nature of Seal Rock.

[treuhavik]

In 2.5, Minfilia considers that Midgardsormr's origin with Althyk and Nymeia may have just been with Hydaelyn, after all. If Althyk and Nymeia were both Hydaelyn, perhaps Llymlaen was also Hydaelyn, and then all the waters come from Hydaelyn, lol. I've figured for a while that the sea serpent had some connection to Midgardsormr; they have strikingly similar anatomy.

It is true that Erik doesn't explicitly say that Althyk is the earth and Nymeia is the water... The more I strive to make sense of it all, the more I find myself believing that it's all just mythos. What would that make Hydaelyn though? I mean, we know she's real. *sigh*

Digression aside, I'm more inclined to buy what Erik is sellin' and regard Thalaos as pure Lominsan folklore. I think we need some help from the Devs on the Perykos issue though. S/He doesn't even have GE page started!


...And what's Llymlaen, a deity of wind, doin' 'twixt oceans 'n' sea serpents anyway?! /lalafuriousmotion

Anonymoose, do you have a publication of your collection of Eorzean Lore? (Maybe you're a contributor for a wiki or something . . ?)

Bingo.

[Mishini_Dracoto]

Bingo.

Do you know what wiki he's a contributor to? >_>