MGP too much of a grind

[Welsper59]

MMORPGS and especially FF14 is not about grinding per se. There are some grindy parts, they are indeed bad, but Square said, they want to change this. If they do not change it, of course, there is no need to stay in a game, which is the same as any other bad MMO, true. But until now, I (and many others) believe in Square's promises and are waiting for 3.0.

If they stay on this path for more and more dumb grind, yes, we will leave. Many will. Some already did.

When did they say they wanted to change the formula for MMORPGs, and thus, traditional RPGs in general? Maybe I missed that. I know they said they wanted to change their approach for certain mechanics that are all-or-nothing, like Titan, but I don't recall ever reading/hearing anything about the grind (except to ease up a little on specific content that involved that... note: that does not mean remove).

And the entire genre is about grinding (in some form or another). A repetitive process that involves bettering your character in one way or another. That's RPG at its core, don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise. I don't think anyone is arguing against the notion that too much grind is bad, but rather that you're fighting a battle that you won't win lol. You won't win it because you don't understand everything about what you're arguing against. It'd be like if I went to a CoD forum and argued that the idea of FPS games having to use guns or be in the eyes of the character to be old and lazy design. It'd be clear I don't understand what an FPS involves, particularly with the CoD series.

Also that implications that there are an overwhelming majority of players that don't understand what a traditional (see Final Fantasy style) RPG is. People leave MMOs for many reasons, please refrain from making it seem like that is not the case. If you ever choose to leave, so be it. You won't be missed, just like the rest of us won't be missed when it is our time to quit. Many leave, many join... that's a fact of the ways that consumers take part in the MMORPG market (assuming you have a hit, like this game is).