MGP too much of a grind

[RobinRethiel]

you couldnt even name a "good" mmorpg without grinds...



so thats why the playerbase increased from 2.5m to 4m

Name a good MMORPG with grind. A grind like killing 10.000 monsters. And of course: it must be the main element and make you feel forced to do it. Not optional. - And forget to call the Gold Saucer optional. It's a very big new element in FF14 and designed to serve all players as fun park beside the normal stuff.

WoW? You don't have to grind there. You can, there are some things here and there, but they are very optional. If it would be a grindy game in the core, they would never had caught so many players.
Guild Wars? There are possibilities to grind, but again, you don't have to in the slightest. You don't need to grind to get good gear.
Star Wars? Didn't feel grindy, got others problems.
and so on...

By the way: Grinding is a main part of F2P games, because grinding is annoying and F2P games are supposed to have such annoying stuff inside, so people buy the packages. That may be the reason, why you think, that MMORPGs must be grindy. No. F2P MMORPGs must be grindy, else no one would buy those +X XP stuff and so on.



Playerbase does not work that way. Yes, actually it may rise, but for an MMO you must hold them the long term. If they would really have that much more ACTIVE players, there would be more servers. And you will never gain and hold a big player base with grinding. The grind is, what make people leave, all the other, good parts, FF14 got, they bring bigger numbers. The grind and rng may destroy this, if they are not careful, polluting all the good they got.

Did you just imply that Gold Saucer isn't optional?

Hahahaha!

Show's over folks, this thread has reached its climax.

The whole game is "optional", kid. Try to get real.