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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenea View Post
    To Shinun and others who think the tournament rules need to change, I totally agree. They definitely do need to change.

    What I'm trying to point out in this thread is that even if those rules change, Lightning's ridiculous rarity and the fact that it is a functional card reward are still problems.
    It's not a problem. Having Tournament only cards is a very good thing. Their functionality isn't that much with how many 5 star cards their are. Until they release an achievement for raising the deck customization that demands you have these tournament cards it's not a problem. Having them ease the grind for your next achievement buffer is fine. Now, if a Tourny card is OP then ya it's a problem. But as it is their just flavor cards more wanted by collectors then their actual playability. Which is why they need to fix the way the tournaments are structured then the rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinun View Post
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    I don't really disagree with you much. Yes, if the rules were fixed and the rewards were distributed fairly, I wouldn't feel as bad about it as I do now.

    I think one of the things for me is that the Lightning card is part of a collection. There are 80 possible cards to collect—a set, even number that everyone passionate about TT should be able to achieve. It just irks me that I may forever have 4 blank spots in my card binder. Even if those cards are not game-changers in terms of their power (although with the random rule they very well could be), they are unique items I would like to use in my decks and play around with.

    Of course, we don't know what SE will do in the future. They may make these cards available through MGP in future patches, once more cards are added. Still, right now, especially considering the recent fiasco, I am displeased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimasamune View Post
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    Oh i'm a huge collector myself 72/80 atm. I am pissed with how this last tournament ended with people either paying or FC/ALT bumping themself to the top. I want all 80 cards. But with the way tournaments are collectors have to place to get them. So atm your looking at 76/80 cards viable if you don't get tournament cards. These tournaments are going to more then likely keep recycling. Also I can agree that when more cards come into play who knows they may make past tournament cards new mgp cards that you have to pay for like Cloud/Nanamo.

    Still having Tournament Cards is huge for TT enthusiasts, because it gives something to strive for instead of after awhile only being npc farming minigame. That being said the problem is still the tournament not the rewards.
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    Last edited by Shinun; 03-11-2015 at 06:34 AM.

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    If the tournament schedule is as it appears to be right now, we will have 4 cycling tournaments, scheduled for every other week, for an 8 week cycle. That means each tournament card will be available to 3 * (52/8) = either 18 or 21 people at the maximum, per year. Assuming no repeat victors.

    I don't think having a reward for a minigame be that much more exclusive than any other content in the game is reasonable. Obviously you disagree, but I really don't understand why. Collectors of gear, mounts, and minions are not punished anywhere near this harshly.
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    Last edited by Aenea; 03-11-2015 at 07:05 AM. Reason: Equation unclear XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenea View Post
    If the tournament schedule is as it appears to be right now, we will have 4 cycling tournaments, scheduled for every other week, for an 8 week cycle. That means each tournament card will be available to 3 * (52/8) = either 18 or 21 people at the maximum, per year. Assuming no repeat victors.

    I don't think having a reward for a minigame be that much more exclusive than any other content in the game is reasonable. Obviously you disagree, but I really don't understand why. Collectors of gear, mounts, and minions are not punished anywhere near this harshly.
    (S)he either hasn't thought about it, or just wants to argue for the sake of it. The tourney is whack on every level. Unlike many, I don't think it should have been canceled. However, if they stay the course on either the way it's run or the reward structure, SE should be ashamed of themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenea View Post
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    TCG Tournaments always have card prizes. Usually card prizes you can't get anywhere else well unless Ebay if you want to pay thousands. Their needs to be something special given for tournament winners that's only gotten from it, be it cards as a whole only gotten from those tournaments, or special art. If you have Lightning congrats on doing what you had to do to get it i guess, but the cards are what makes the tournament special. I'll say it again... They need to fix the tournament not the rewards.
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    TCG tournaments always have card prizes, yes, but they are never functionally exclusive. They're foil-stamped versions of existing cards, or alternate art versions of existing cards, or just packs of existing cards in general.

    They're not cards that are only ever available via winning the tournament, which is what we currently have.
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