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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimasamune View Post
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    Oh i'm a huge collector myself 72/80 atm. I am pissed with how this last tournament ended with people either paying or FC/ALT bumping themself to the top. I want all 80 cards. But with the way tournaments are collectors have to place to get them. So atm your looking at 76/80 cards viable if you don't get tournament cards. These tournaments are going to more then likely keep recycling. Also I can agree that when more cards come into play who knows they may make past tournament cards new mgp cards that you have to pay for like Cloud/Nanamo.

    Still having Tournament Cards is huge for TT enthusiasts, because it gives something to strive for instead of after awhile only being npc farming minigame. That being said the problem is still the tournament not the rewards.
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    Last edited by Shinun; 03-11-2015 at 06:34 AM.

  2. #12
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    If the tournament schedule is as it appears to be right now, we will have 4 cycling tournaments, scheduled for every other week, for an 8 week cycle. That means each tournament card will be available to 3 * (52/8) = either 18 or 21 people at the maximum, per year. Assuming no repeat victors.

    I don't think having a reward for a minigame be that much more exclusive than any other content in the game is reasonable. Obviously you disagree, but I really don't understand why. Collectors of gear, mounts, and minions are not punished anywhere near this harshly.
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    Last edited by Aenea; 03-11-2015 at 07:05 AM. Reason: Equation unclear XD

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    As I said in another tournament thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Here is what I would do...first and foremost remove the ability for players to choose their own opponents. That is the only way to stop the win buying going on which should not be happening in any tournaments, whether you do that through a roulette system or whatever I don't care as long as you remove the option for players to pick their own opponents. I would also make it two tournaments per week, every two weeks is too long and too far apart especially when consider you only need 15 matches to finish the tournament so two times a week is easily done.

    I would make the tiers something like this...

    Tier 1 (The 60+ card category)

    First prize for top 3 is the legendary/collector cards + 150,000MGP, second prize for top 4-10 being 10 gold card packs + 100,000MGP, third prize for top 11-20 being 10 silver card packs + 50,000MGP followed by fourth prize for ranked 21-50 which is 10 bronze pack cards + 10,000MGP, the rest get 1000MGP perhaps for taking part provided play all 15 matches in a tournament.

    Tier 2 (The 30 to 59 card category)

    First prize for top 3 is 100,000MGP, second prize for top 4-10 being 10 gold card packs + 50,000MGP, third prize for top 11-20 being 10 silver card packs + 25,000MGP followed by fourth prize for ranked 21-50 which is 10 bronze pack cards + 5,000MGP, the rest get 1000MGP perhaps for taking part provided play all 15 matches in a tournament.

    Tier 3 (The 1 to 29 card category)

    First prize for top 3 is 50,000MGP, second prize for top 4-10 being 10 gold card packs + 25,000MGP, third prize for top 11-20 being 10 silver card packs + 15,000MGP followed by fourth prize for ranked 21-50 which is 10 bronze pack cards + 3,000MGP, the rest get 1000MGP perhaps for taking part provided play all 15 matches in a tournament.

    The main reason I did not put every tier getting the legendary/collector card in all three tiers is to stop people abusing the system by making quick and easy lvl 15 alts (which takes only a couple hours to do) and spamming the tournament over and over in the lowest tier for the legendary/collector card. There would be no point fixing the buying wins problem if replace that problem with another kind of problem which is the making alt quick characters spamming the lowest tier for the same level of reward as the highest tier top prize gets.

    By keeping it MGP+card pack related for the lower tiers that would help them build up a nice size deck through buying and winning of the B/S/G packs so that in the next tournament they would be closer to the top tier and by proxy their chances of the legendary/collector cards through hard work and not through abusing the system whether that is from buying wins or making many quick lvl 15 alts and spamming the lowest tier for the highest tier top prize.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 03-11-2015 at 08:50 AM.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenea View Post
    If the tournament schedule is as it appears to be right now, we will have 4 cycling tournaments, scheduled for every other week, for an 8 week cycle. That means each tournament card will be available to 3 * (52/8) = either 18 or 21 people at the maximum, per year. Assuming no repeat victors.

    I don't think having a reward for a minigame be that much more exclusive than any other content in the game is reasonable. Obviously you disagree, but I really don't understand why. Collectors of gear, mounts, and minions are not punished anywhere near this harshly.
    (S)he either hasn't thought about it, or just wants to argue for the sake of it. The tourney is whack on every level. Unlike many, I don't think it should have been canceled. However, if they stay the course on either the way it's run or the reward structure, SE should be ashamed of themselves.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenea View Post
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    TCG Tournaments always have card prizes. Usually card prizes you can't get anywhere else well unless Ebay if you want to pay thousands. Their needs to be something special given for tournament winners that's only gotten from it, be it cards as a whole only gotten from those tournaments, or special art. If you have Lightning congrats on doing what you had to do to get it i guess, but the cards are what makes the tournament special. I'll say it again... They need to fix the tournament not the rewards.
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  6. #16
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    TCG tournaments always have card prizes, yes, but they are never functionally exclusive. They're foil-stamped versions of existing cards, or alternate art versions of existing cards, or just packs of existing cards in general.

    They're not cards that are only ever available via winning the tournament, which is what we currently have.
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    This was posted by the second place winner of the contest on my server. This must stop.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptm5FF9WRVI
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    This was posted by the second place winner of the contest on my server. This must stop.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptm5FF9WRVI
    Holy Cow! That's awesome and Terrible at the same time!
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by AryaSpark View Post
    Holy Cow! That's awesome and Terrible at the same time!
    No it was just plain awesome.
    They really need to fix the tournaments, and also release the tournament reward cards for acquisition in an alternate way. Maybe give Lightning to King Elmer or something.
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