can MNK get a somewhat acceptable AOE skills?

[Alistaire]

Is this a troll thread? Howling Fist is a Monk ability on a 60 CD, Doton is a crappy Damage over time effect and a waste of Ninjitsu cast 90% of the time. Any solid monk will combo to keep up atk/atk speed buffs and drop some Rockbreaker combo action. We honestly do better than most.

Nah, tbh the lack of 2nd hit aoe move and arm of the destroyer's terrible potency does put mnk in last for aoe. Can't perfect balance every pull.

DRG averages 100 or 160 aoe per gcd depending on mob grouping.
NIN is 100 per gcd with occasional extra. You're right that doton is bad in most cases; katon wins or ties unless mobs last 21 seconds on average. (and NIN contributes to another tp-user's aoe longevity)
BRD is 110 assuming mobs are close enough for quick nock. (which does win vs using rain of death etc for procs unless mobs are too spread out)

MNK is 50+130 every 3 gcds, so average 60 per. Here's to hoping lvl 51-60 includes a raptor-form aoe move. For every Howling Fist you get the NIN can throw out 3 katons, so that's also no contest, and greased lightning does not make up the difference between 60 potency/gcd vs 100+, even if you were to add in true strike/twin snakes potency and divide it up amongst targets, which would be overestimating its usefulness since aoe style killing doesn't really benefit that much from putting extra damage on only one of the targets.

[Yuki_Tokita]

I think Monks are fine the way they are. They already do the most single target damage in the game. If they gave Monk any good AOE then he would be unbalanced compared to the other jobs. BLM does the most AOE damage but are immobile, Bards can attack while moving however they have low dps. Monks need a weakness to keep them balanced, weak AOE damage is one of them.

[Velox]

MNK needs a ranged attack a LOT more than greater AoE capability right now, seeing how it is the ONLY job in FFXIV without a ranged "pull" skill.

[Truedragon]

Monk needs another +10-12% damage boost. And the return of Asuran fist. I will also settle with Hundred fists.

[Skeith-Adeline]

I'd say don't worry about AoE. Worst Case Scenario: you have 2 Monks in your Dungeon run.

[Blueskyy]

I think Monks are fine the way they are. They already do the most single target damage in the game. If they gave Monk any good AOE then he would be unbalanced compared to the other jobs. BLM does the most AOE damage but are immobile, Bards can attack while moving however they have low dps. Monks need a weakness to keep them balanced, weak AOE damage is one of them.

Talk about unbalanced, I would say DRG, (Many drgs are going to curse me for this)
But look at DRG now, They don't have to work as hard as monks to do dps (by that i meant heavy thrust), they have higher hp, higher def, same mdef, increased dmg taken when bfb is up is reduced while having more outgoing dmg, they have ranged skill, decent aoe, recover more TP than monks

The only thing monks have now over Drg are DK, and healing buff. Tho they are technically still the top single target dps, most fights in this game still favors DRG and NIN because of Gs stacks

[Arkista]

How about they just decrease the TP needed for Rock Breaker?

[CGMidlander]

How about they just decrease the TP needed for Rock Breaker?

Or increase Fists of Fire from 5% to 10%.

While I personally don't find MNK or DRG hard to play, I do feel that MNK is noticeably more work to output similar DPS. There's lots of movement for positionals in comparison, lots more button mashing because of faster GCDs (Can be viewed as a pro or a con, really. It's certainly more engaging to play, but also quicker to fatigue), and GL3 stacks to worry about.

[Inuk9]

Tatsumaki Sempu Kyaku for raptor form!

[ErzaScarlet77]

Dint feel like making new topic, but would a burst skill for mnk be to OP

If anyone played ragnarok online, monks there are mainly fast attack combo system like here too but by sacrificing all their MP they can do a massive burst damage


Maybe in here we could sacirfice all gl3 stack (or gl4 if my wish comes true for hw) and use them for one big burst

To balance ot maybe make is so after youuse that attack you cant gain gl stack for 30 sec or somethong