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    Okay guys, I think it's pretty safe to assume that SE isn't going to this model anytime soon. Let's stick to bouncing around ideas about how best to implement such a model so the game can live and thrive through it. I know I have quite rigorously stated in previous posts how a system like this when unchecked and out of control can damage a game significantly. That's well established beyond question at this point. Let's see people bounce more ideas around about how a system like this can be regulated and controlled to a degree enough that it's not the end of a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    Okay guys, I think it's pretty safe to assume that SE isn't going to this model anytime soon. Let's stick to bouncing around ideas about how best to implement such a model so the game can live and thrive through it. I know I have quite rigorously stated in previous posts how a system like this when unchecked and out of control can damage a game significantly. That's well established beyond question at this point. Let's see people bounce more ideas around about how a system like this can be regulated and controlled to a degree enough that it's not the end of a game.
    But any checks would undermine their ability to exploit other players. If they can't cheat the way they want to, why cheat at all.

    (I know, I know... Why does a dog lick himself? "because he can")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    Okay guys, I think it's pretty safe to assume that SE isn't going to this model anytime soon. Let's stick to bouncing around ideas about how best to implement such a model so the game can live and thrive through it. I know I have quite rigorously stated in previous posts how a system like this when unchecked and out of control can damage a game significantly. That's well established beyond question at this point. Let's see people bounce more ideas around about how a system like this can be regulated and controlled to a degree enough that it's not the end of a game.
    3993 does have one (one) uncontestable point Ceodore, Yoshi-P doesn't have the last say in financial matters concerning Xiv, anyone who believes this is just fooling themselves.

    The continued financial success of the monthly sub model with Xiv will tell the tale, regardless I do not believe SE will ever do this based on their past history as well as the sentiments of "Xivs" player pop.

    They do however have a WWII MMO out that to my knowledge more closely reflects the current popular financial model direction, although I haven't looked at that games progress in some time. I believe this game was in development already by one of the companies that SE absorbed in recent times.

    SE "is" getting to be an "island" amongs't publishers with this stance, and as I mentioned before their is precedent as well as "mounting pressure" from the new conditioned gamer crowd for games to travel in the direction the OP suggests, so he doesn't consider this some sort of larceny Dramul who has a longstanding gamers grasp on this has mentioned it in other threads.

    The fact that the OP has gotten 34 likes is somewhat "telling" to me about how this P2W conditioning has permeated the online gaming market these days, although Magis subsequent 49 likes heartened me somewhat.

    Years ago I cast a jaundiced eye when cash shops first popped on the scene, they screamed ripoff to me and still do, vanity only be damned.

    My eyebrows did go up when the cash shop was first announced, but I held a wait and see attitude about it, so far in my opinion it's nothing to worry about.

    Other games I have played have "promised" to never move beyond "vanity" cash shops, or to run systems like this crappy plex deal.

    To date they "all" have a perfect 100% record, they "all" lied, as I said the ones "I have played".

    In one of those games the lead developer was shown the front door for promising players certain things the company that subsequently bought the IP didn't want to hold themselves to, he didn't have the last say either.

    In the end it's always about the bottom line and if the profits start to fade promises and/or longstanding policies often fade with them.

    While I don't see SE being bought out anytime soon, all we can do is wait and see.
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