Do you guys find crafting fun?

[Nashred]

I used to before I reached 3 stars. Now I don't anymore because every piece of vanity is walled behind rare drops and demimaterias and the requirements for Lucis tools are too much to even try to bother (especially since I have to do it for all classes), and that's not even counting RNG. I started crafting to make my own glamour, but it's clearly not an option since I have to shell a lot of money on the MB anyway to buy the map drops required for the good looking stuff. The time, money and effort put into making a freaking pj is not worth it. Might as well buy it from the MB.

I agree on demateria, it is a joke and too many recipes are gated behind demateria. But the lucis does not bother me, It is mostly grind. You get one item through levy quests, one item from gathering and the rest GC seals or dungeons and maps.
Supra is the joke in my opinion. It is just about money and not crafting, you dont have to HQ for them. Is about buying demateria if you dont have Desyth high enough.

I still love crafting but demateria has taken it down a notch. RNG is another thing that is too off that I mentioned in a previous post.

[Moqi]

I agree on demateria, it is a joke and too many recipes are gated behind demateria. But the lucis does not bother me, It is mostly grind. You get one item through levy quests, one item from gathering and the rest GC seals or dungeons and maps.
Supra is the joke in my opinion. It is just about money and not crafting, you dont have to HQ for them. Is about buying demateria if you dont have Desyth high enough.

I still love crafting but demateria has taken it down a notch. RNG is another thing that is too off that I mentioned in a previous post.

I actually stopped at Supra because no way i am spending all that time/money for mastercraft demimaterias. But I still think the amount of Moonstone is way too high, even in terms of seals, if I were to get all tools. It's nothing but a time sink. I wish we had to prove we are good at crafting by mastering a couple of difficult recipies (that don't requrie the same freaking rotation for every class and a bunch of sub-recipies to make the mats) instead of spamming dungeons for turn ins and seals.


That's not even counting the fact that crafting after 50 has no storyline/cutscenes, which was one of the things I loved the most about it. The Weaver's quests are still my favourite amongst all classes. Now there is 0 effort put into that, it's just pure grind with no context to it.

[Gillionaire]

I think that's because you're now an artisan, you don't need to report to the guild master or be taught a lesson from them. You are among the best of the best (along the storylines anyway)
Maybe in the expansion, Talan and Gerolt will have more storyline for crafters to cover. I personally don't miss it, it's very time consuming running from place to place just to turn in quests.

[Nashred]

I actually stopped at Supra because no way i am spending all that time/money for mastercraft demimaterias. But I still think the amount of Moonstone is way too high, even in terms of seals, if I were to get all tools. It's nothing but a time sink. I wish we had to prove we are good at crafting by mastering a couple of difficult recipies (that don't requrie the same freaking rotation for every class and a bunch of sub-recipies to make the mats) instead of spamming dungeons for turn ins and seals.


That's not even counting the fact that crafting after 50 has no storyline/cutscenes, which was one of the things I loved the most about it. The Weaver's quests are still my favourite amongst all classes. Now there is 0 effort put into that, it's just pure grind with no context to it.

I hear yea. My guess like everything else in this game moonstone prices will eventually come down or be easier to get. But yea they are not cheap and it does cause crafters to do stuff they may not want to do like fates and dungeons. But you can craft stuff to turn in for GC seals. I do see your point and it is a valid one.

[Gillionaire]

I hear yea. My guess like everything else in this game moonstone prices will eventually come down or be easier to get. But yea they are not cheap and it does cause crafters to do stuff they may not want to do like fates and dungeons. But you can craft stuff to turn in for GC seals. I do see your point and it is a valid one.

Well, I admit that supra is not about the challenge and a minor annoyance at best..

But if you're gonna gear up your crafter with artisan's gear and artisan off hands, why is buying 3 mcDs such a problem for you? You're already spending 10mil+ on gear, it's just another 1m on top of that..

If you're a crafter, you need also be a merchant. That may not be your cup of tea, but that's just how it synergizes. Get craftin, make some money, and scoff at mcD prices

[Sibyll]

Well, I admit that supra is not about the challenge and a minor annoyance at best..

But if you're gonna gear up your crafter with artisan's gear and artisan off hands, why is buying 3 mcDs such a problem for you? You're already spending 10mil+ on gear, it's just another 1m on top of that..

If you're a crafter, you need also be a merchant. That may not be your cup of tea, but that's just how it synergizes. Get craftin, make some money, and scoff at mcD prices

Could just farm the MCDs yourself. That's how I got most of mine. Sometimes the business aspect is knowing how to save money rather than make it .

[Gillionaire]

Could just farm the MCDs yourself. That's how I got most of mine. Sometimes the business aspect is knowing how to save money rather than make it .

I understand that self sufficiency is important to some people.. But I'd just rather make 5m a day and buy what I need instead of making every little thing myself to "save" money. Ultimately, time spent doing that cuts into your profits.

[Zfz]

Ultimately, time spent doing that cuts into your profits.

Personally as someone who absolutely loves the self sufficiency in this game (well they're killing this aspect in 3.0), profit isn't part of my game because it wasn't what I play it for. Crafting for me is just "making stuff". The point is in the "making". Just like how some people would spend time in the game touring the zones and taking pictures with friends, instead of always gogogo roulette gogogo tomestone gogogo thisisn'tefficientuseoftime.

This game is balanced quite well in this aspect, in my opinion. A self-sufficient crafter who pays no mind to profit generally makes a profit naturally because in enjoying the crafting the time spent is naturally converted into things of value, and people who are more on the merchant side makes a huge profit which is exactly what they look for in crafting. Win-win situation.

But that melding RNG...24% success rate and 20 fails in a row...can get very, very annoying. /lol