Do you guys find crafting fun?

[chidarake]

sometimes I enjoy crafting other times not,

getting the lucis trade in items is kinda fun but when you have to do 8 tools its gets a little tedious that being said they weren't very difficult even though at first they looked like they would be.

the big fun factor for me is knowing I can make anything I want.

[baopee]

Rotation I found for 3 star 40 durability
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3CXY_Gv7YM

[thunderbreak]

What this game needs is a swiss army knife kinda tool, where 1 does all classes lol.

[Empty-handed]

Yes it's fun. Like the time when I NQ'd an offhand synth at 96% quality 2 days ago.

6 sealants gone with the wind. :/

[Raffounz]

I'm ok with the crafting, i leveled all crafters in late 2.4 and now i've 2 4* and all 3* jobs with full artisan crafted and one lucis. What I hate is that some crafting is not useful nor profitable. I mean, in early 2.5 i did some good gil with goldsmith (my only lucis job as now) with 110 jewels. But the other 4* job (blacksmith, wich I had geared since 2.3 because I started it ages ago for PLD relic) is pretty useless. Also, the next job I plan to do (Armorer) will be pretty useless too. But I see craft now as an investment, since i crafted 110 accessories for my static in 2.5 and pushed toward t13 p4 now with a very strong dps and reliable HP (despite we lack a monk and some ppl rally get bad with SX loots).

So, I hope SE will make usefulness for all job (please, do BSM craft some decent weapon in expansion, or we are left as offhand crafters for life).

[RiceisNice]

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Like maybe make the crafted weapons be feasible as raid equips. The way it is right now, ilvl110 weapons have no place even with melds, because WD is by far the strongest stat when you can get your hands on diamond or HA weapons relatively easily, esp when the ilvl110 weapons uses BCIII (which is like 300k on farmfruit).

Maybe something like being able to craft augmentation catalysts (like sand or twines) through the use of time-limited items or Alexander drops, which are specifically used to upgrade crafted equipments or at the very least, the weapons.

I really feel like the crafted weapons can do so much more outside of being foddlers for the initial relic or glamour (and they're comparatively low res at that...just look at the ebony bow)

[Mishini_Dracoto]

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Rice,

this guys response to you tells me he doesn't know what he's talking about. Suggesting you reclaim on Luci trade-ins is silly, and all of us with or working on Lucis know this. For the most part, very little has changed in the world of crafting since 3* crafting was released, which is why I'm not posting as much in these subforums. I find every thread eventually degenerates into an argument about skill vs RNG.

At our stage in the game, we should never NQ any item that is below 3* difficulty, unless we are using quick synthesis for some reason.

Best way to beat RNG? Mass Production. As StouterTaru has mentioned in various posts of his. Unfortunately, I do more than just DoH, and I rather enjoy tanking in this game . . . but don't currently have consistent availability to dedicate time to raiding FCoB. So really, I'm just a sad panda in the game atm :/

[RiceisNice]

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Even if you were to mass produce and use HQ items whenever possible for big time crafts like the ilvl110 weapons or the artisan/foragers stuff, there's still an off chance that it can go incredibly wrong, whether its the 20% fail rates, getting no goods for the first 20-25 steps or reclaim not working.

I'm not saying or trying to imply that its all about RNG, or that there's no skill involved, but RNG still happens and the whole skill thing is a grey area to me. Using your example with the bhuz, you could get a craft that gives you absolutely no good conditions; where even with as high of CP as 395 you'd have to count on all 12 rapid/hasty touches to succeed at a 80% rate to get yourself a 100% HQ rate. Is that situation (or even my screenshot of the fluorite lens) a result of being dealt the wrong cards throughout the entire craft, or our failure to adapt and adjust our crafts to what we're given?

And in regards to skill, we're literally just following a flowchart of what to do in a craft (TotT when its good, refresh CZ, do XYZ if you have X amount of CP), or recognizing and adapting to the situation you're given, whatever you want to call it.

I don't see how mass production doesn't help you "beat RNG" unless I'm missing something here, it only helps recover losses to an extent. An NQ item more often than not is worth less than the materials used to make it, and more so if you're going to SB only to get an elemental material out of it

[baopee]

Just got my last Lucis last night, now I can go back on making gils instead of flush them down in the toilet.

[MN_14]

I don't see how mass production doesn't help you "beat RNG" unless I'm missing something here, it only helps recover losses to an extent. An NQ item more often than not is worth less than the materials used to make it, and more so if you're going to SB only to get an elemental material out of it

I think the idea behind mass production is that all your profits from your HQ items should offset your losses from NQ items. Unless you're consistently getting NQ results or crafting items with really small margins, you should turn an overall profit.