Bard Points Allocation - Isn;t it DEX?

[Dyne_Fellpool]

never was the point Blacklisted for being rude. The point was always "I" couldn't see it. Nothing else matters

No. The statement you made was patently false. That DOES matter.

You can't just make a claim like "nobody i know even uses Hawks Eye" and then say "well I dont see it on my screen so all my false claims dont matter." It doesnt work that way.

Tell the truth when you are making your point and people will be less likely to be rude.

[Faelandaea]

No. The statement you made was patently false. That DOES matter.

You can't just make a claim like "nobody i know even uses Hawks Eye" and then say "well I dont see it on my screen so all my false claims dont matter." It doesnt work that way.

Tell the truth when you are making your point and people will be less likely to be rude.

The reason it doesn't matter to the little kid is because things like this ONLY matter to team players. We are team players. That kid isn't. He plays solo only. When he uses the DF, whatever team is unfortunate enough to pick him up gets to carry him because he refuses to use any buffs (sorry, this isn't just about "Hawk's Eye" - if he doesn't use one buff, chances are he doesn't use any). Only team players use their resources in order to benefit the team.

[Judge_Xero]

BLM does not use DEX - that is why you do not see a damage increase. BLM damage comes from your INT stat - that is where BLM potency lies. The only classes in the game that can benefit from DEX are ROG/NIN, ARC/BRD and PUG/MNK.

TBH I know how it works. Just thought I add some more fun to the thread.

Hawk's Eye is just so OP as a skill since it's an increase to DEX. Will probably be close to a 40% Damage increase come Level Cap increase.

[ScarletDawn]

TBH I know how it works. Just thought I add some more fun to the thread.

Hawk's Eye is just so OP as a skill since it's an increase to DEX. Will probably be close to a 40% Damage increase come Level Cap increase.

Considering bards have lower damage compared to other dps classes, and rely heavily on crits to deal burst. Also my bards dex is about 500, with hawk eye i gets about 585 dex, which then translates to 585 attack power. its not that OP, yes with 1k dex you would get about 150 dex. But really at the higher levels the small boost is only every going to be 15% extra dmg.

[Judge_Xero]

Considering bards have lower damage compared to other dps classes, and rely heavily on crits to deal burst. Also my bards dex is about 500, with hawk eye i gets about 585 dex, which then translates to 585 attack power. its not that OP, yes with 1k dex you would get about 150 dex. But really at the higher levels the small boost is only every going to be 15% extra dmg.

Oh yeah I think you're right. I was thinking about it backwards, because it'd still only be a 15% increase compared to the damage you're doing, even though it's a greater DEX increase.

i.e.
600 DEX (740 Damage) - HE - 690 DEX (850 Damage) +110

1000 DEX (1600 Damage) - HE - 1150 DEX (1840 Damage) +240

Still an awesome skill that I wish NIN could use.

[siverstorm]

Considering bards have lower damage compared to other dps classes, and rely heavily on crits to deal burst. Also my bards dex is about 500, with hawk eye i gets about 585 dex, which then translates to 585 attack power. its not that OP, yes with 1k dex you would get about 150 dex. But really at the higher levels the small boost is only every going to be 15% extra dmg.

You're gonna make a sequel to this thread with a comment like this.
Unless you didn't intend to make it sound like 15% extra damage is insignificant, that's just what it looks like to me.
(Edit: overall HE is more like 10~12% damage boost but it doesn't change the point)
15% extra damage is really significant. Any extra damage is significant.

That is literally how cooldowns work, small bursts of damage that add up and give us the numbers we see.
Untraited B4B is like 10%, Raging Strikes is 20% or something.

That 85 dex you're getting from HE is huge. Considering that going from full i110 to full i130 nets you about 83 DEX alone, not counting WD or substats?

[OneWingedSora]

Still an awesome skill that I wish NIN could use.

Haha, do you even balance ? As if Nins not already OP as ****. Giving them Hawk's eye would destroy the competition.

[PetiteMalFleur]

BLM does not use DEX - that is why you do not see a damage increase. BLM damage comes from your INT stat - that is where BLM potency lies. The only classes in the game that can benefit from DEX are ROG/NIN, ARC/BRD and PUG/MNK.

PUG/MNK are you sure?

[Dervy]

The numbers are much less than what you're all saying. @ 600 DEX/STR,

600*1.15 = 690.
90 STR/DEX increase.
@ 100 Potency, it's around a 27 damage increase. (220 - 247.9).
So like a 12.68% increase in damage @ 100 potency.

That doesn't mean it's a 10.89% DPS increase, by the way.

@ 600 STR/DEX

600*(1+0.15*20/90) = 620 average DEX "per second", or a 3.333% increase in average DEX.
@100 Potency, 600 STR/DEX = 220 damage
@100 Potency 620 STR/DEX = 226.2 damage
Or a 2.18% overall Damage increase.

[Judge_Xero]

Haha, do you even balance ? As if Nins not already OP as ****. Giving them Hawk's eye would destroy the competition.

I don't balance, but I do lift. It's just my roid rage talking.