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    Quote Originally Posted by reel124c41 View Post
    My moral does not have to be the same as yours. So, who are you to judge me?
    If your common sense don't immediatly tell you that this is wrong it seems like I'm just a better person.
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    Should we be directing the feedback here, or will there be a place/forum for that specifically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumo View Post
    If your common sense don't immediatly tell you that this is wrong it seems like I'm just a better person.
    Oh my, and humble too!

    Seriously though, you aren't. Get over yourself and stop being so petty. Selling wins is as acceptable as selling carries right now. It's not against the ToS, so it's not reportable, and it's not disallowed. And yes, that means people can do it. Stop forcing everyone to play the way you do and get over yourself.

    And yes, the tourny has serious issues and really needs to be fixed. SE has acknowledged this and will look into it for future tournies. This one, however, will continue by the rules as they were written at the start of the tourny. Canceling it would only be unfair to those who have participated already, regardless of how you feel about their participation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Oh my, and humble too!

    Seriously though, you aren't. Get over yourself and stop being so petty. Selling wins is as acceptable as selling carries right now. It's not against the ToS, so it's not reportable, and it's not disallowed. And yes, that means people can do it. Stop forcing everyone to play the way you do and get over yourself. Canceling it would only be unfair to those who have participated already, regardless of how you feel about their participation.
    Aww, don't flatter me so much.

    Keep repeating, that it's not against the rules, doesn't make the whole argumentation valid. Yes, yes, it certainly isn't disallowed and yes, people are able to do it but that's far far away from the subject if one should do it. It's just a matter of common sense which is set by our society and not argueable. Exploiting every advandage there is to get even if it is at the expense of other honest and hard trying people is a fine first step to a full flegded egomania. Playing fair and square doesn't mean to just avoid everything that's forbidden but playing in a way that gives equal chances to (mostly) everyone. Oh dear, there are so awful many who are with me on that regard, lucky me. And by the way, canceling everything would be harsh, true, but it would equalize everything as well which is still a good thing but I'm with Ultimasamune's argumentation eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumo View Post
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    If people aren't buying wins, they're going to use alts, or friends. It's honestly inconsequential. People may as well profit off of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    If people aren't buying wins, they're going to use alts, or friends. It's honestly inconsequential. People may as well profit off of it.
    Yeah, I agree. Good sportsmanship is so outdated, anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madigari View Post
    Yeah, I agree. Good sportsmanship is so outdated, anyhow.
    people will always try to find the quickest n easiest way to the top with minimal or no effort needed the way current tournaments are set up some1 with basic cards could place high just by buying wins lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Oh my, and humble too!

    Seriously though, you aren't. Get over yourself and stop being so petty. Selling wins is as acceptable as selling carries right now. It's not against the ToS, so it's not reportable, and it's not disallowed. And yes, that means people can do it. Stop forcing everyone to play the way you do and get over yourself.

    And yes, the tourny has serious issues and really needs to be fixed. SE has acknowledged this and will look into it for future tournies. This one, however, will continue by the rules as they were written at the start of the tourny. Canceling it would only be unfair to those who have participated already, regardless of how you feel about their participation.
    -1 points.
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    Player dughug's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by reel124c41 View Post
    Yes, it is. The GM replied to me, that as of now, it is not a violation of the ToS, so I can trade wins for gil, but he said, that it is not in the spirit of the game and it may change in the future. So, for now, I go for the gil. If people use alt-chars, friends or pay someone doesn't make a difference imo. Even though this is a game, this is the way the world works. With you talking about being antisocial or non ethical you won't succeed anywhere. And talking about ethic: ethic just focuses on moral, which checks if one or another action is considered "good" by a specific standard. My moral does not have to be the same as yours. So, who are you to judge me?
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