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    Need a lot of gil. Good luck.

    The system decides when you get to move on to the next tier of materia and all of them gives only a +1, regardless of tier or type.

    See:
    http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-novu...materia-guide/
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Need a lot of gil. Good luck.
    You're no help at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyMemories View Post
    You're no help at all
    Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
    They spiritbond. Most of the people I know that did a Relic spent weeks on it, because of the cost. It's rough, but it's pretty much the only option if you don't have the money to fail a bit of the rank IV's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    They spiritbond. Most of the people I know that did a Relic spent weeks on it, because of the cost. It's rough, but it's pretty much the only option if you don't have the money to fail a bit of the rank IV's.
    The difference between using Tier IV materia and melding 3 stats is so small it's not worth worrying about. If you're concerned with the cost about the Tier IV materia, just meld a 3rd stat and move on to Nexus. You'll get MUCH better benefit from moving to your Zeta faster with all that sweet, sweet weapon damage instead of derping around about a few secondary stats that do almost nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    The difference between using Tier IV materia and melding 3 stats is so small it's not worth worrying about. If you're concerned with the cost about the Tier IV materia, just meld a 3rd stat and move on to Nexus. You'll get MUCH better benefit from moving to your Zeta faster with all that sweet, sweet weapon damage instead of derping around about a few secondary stats that do almost nothing.
    Quoted for truth.

    You don't need to spend the extra amount/time on the last T4's, and the quest is forgiving enough to allow you to meld whatever off stat you want in order to not touch them until later (all the way to the completed Zeta phase), while benefiting from a higher iLv weapon immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanemano View Post
    Quoted for truth.

    You don't need to spend the extra amount/time on the last T4's, and the quest is forgiving enough to allow you to meld whatever off stat you want in order to not touch them until later (all the way to the completed Zeta phase), while benefiting from a higher iLv weapon immediately.
    Don't you still need to get all 75 infusions done first before you can go farm light? What happens to the alexandrite that is consumed in the process when you are just melding junk stats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
    I have Longinus Zeta and Sasuke's Blades Zeta with capped DET/CRIT. This is what I did;

    Level and invest in the appropriate crafting classes (with leves it's incredibly fast), and the zodiacs become effectively free/profitable. Then create your own gear to spirit bond with to get the materia you want. Meld whatever useless materia you get onto spirit bonding gear to increase spirit bond rate. Profit off the not-so-crap materia you don't need to get more materials to create more spirit bonding gear. After all is said and done for one Zodiac, you'll come out ahead.

    Crafting five full sets (left and right side) takes me about 1.5 to 2hrs while watching a movie, because i'm lazy and crafting is boring (you could craft faster). Melding the crap materia I have or purchased off the MB for cheap takes about 30m for 5 full left/right side sets. With Spirit Bond potion, full melds, and FC buff, it usually takes about 2 hours to fully Spirit Bond all five sets, which give me 55 chances for the materia I want, of which I usually yield at least 1-3 Det/Crit V's.

    It takes work and time, but it's supposed to. My group can meet for Final Coil only twice a week, so that leaves me with a lot of extra time on my hands (outside of the GF and full time job). If it wasn't for the Zodiac Quest, I'd really have nothing else to do that is progressive-minded.

    Some people feel like they should be able to get a good weapon for less effort because they don't have enough time. Well, they can. They're called Primal/Soldiery weapons.
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