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    Help me Understand upgrading Animus to Novus

    Now I know you need 75 materia and 75 Alexandrites
    BUt how do I know how much piety to but in or Mind since I'm a healer or Det
    A lot of people say start off on materia I like piety materia I
    But how much piety 1's or piety II how do I know when to go on to the next materia up?
    Mind materia
    Piety Materia
    Det Materia
    Crit materia
    Acc materia I think I don't need but idk
    Would I do 18 materia in each stat?
    But it still doesn't explain when to do an upgrade on each materia when to movie on to materia II
    Sorry if this seems confusing but it's confusing to me
    forgot about Vit matiera so it wouldn't be 18 in each stat
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    Need a lot of gil. Good luck.

    The system decides when you get to move on to the next tier of materia and all of them gives only a +1, regardless of tier or type.

    See:
    http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-novu...materia-guide/
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 03-04-2015 at 08:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Need a lot of gil. Good luck.
    You're no help at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyMemories View Post
    You're no help at all
    Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
    They spiritbond. Most of the people I know that did a Relic spent weeks on it, because of the cost. It's rough, but it's pretty much the only option if you don't have the money to fail a bit of the rank IV's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    They spiritbond. Most of the people I know that did a Relic spent weeks on it, because of the cost. It's rough, but it's pretty much the only option if you don't have the money to fail a bit of the rank IV's.
    The difference between using Tier IV materia and melding 3 stats is so small it's not worth worrying about. If you're concerned with the cost about the Tier IV materia, just meld a 3rd stat and move on to Nexus. You'll get MUCH better benefit from moving to your Zeta faster with all that sweet, sweet weapon damage instead of derping around about a few secondary stats that do almost nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???
    I have Longinus Zeta and Sasuke's Blades Zeta with capped DET/CRIT. This is what I did;

    Level and invest in the appropriate crafting classes (with leves it's incredibly fast), and the zodiacs become effectively free/profitable. Then create your own gear to spirit bond with to get the materia you want. Meld whatever useless materia you get onto spirit bonding gear to increase spirit bond rate. Profit off the not-so-crap materia you don't need to get more materials to create more spirit bonding gear. After all is said and done for one Zodiac, you'll come out ahead.

    Crafting five full sets (left and right side) takes me about 1.5 to 2hrs while watching a movie, because i'm lazy and crafting is boring (you could craft faster). Melding the crap materia I have or purchased off the MB for cheap takes about 30m for 5 full left/right side sets. With Spirit Bond potion, full melds, and FC buff, it usually takes about 2 hours to fully Spirit Bond all five sets, which give me 55 chances for the materia I want, of which I usually yield at least 1-3 Det/Crit V's.

    It takes work and time, but it's supposed to. My group can meet for Final Coil only twice a week, so that leaves me with a lot of extra time on my hands (outside of the GF and full time job). If it wasn't for the Zodiac Quest, I'd really have nothing else to do that is progressive-minded.

    Some people feel like they should be able to get a good weapon for less effort because they don't have enough time. Well, they can. They're called Primal/Soldiery weapons.
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    How much piety or determination stats you put into your weapon is completely up to you. 1 materia used = 1 point. Lets say you wanna start with piety, you start with piety I materia and fuse those into your scroll. I believe around 7 materia is when you start to notice the infusion success rate start to drop, and after 11 piety I materia infused you'll need to start using piety II materia if you wanna keep putting points towards piety.

    You have 75 points to choose from. 75 points, 75 Alex, 75 materia that needs to be fused into your scroll. Might I add, the most you can max out a single stat by is 44 points. Then you'll need to pick a different one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReddAxel View Post
    How much piety or determination stats you put into your weapon is completely up to you. 1 materia used = 1 point. Lets say you wanna start with piety, you start with piety I materia and fuse those into your scroll. I believe around 7 materia is when you start to notice the infusion success rate start to drop, and after 11 piety I materia infused you'll need to start using piety II materia if you wanna keep putting points towards piety.

    You have 75 points to choose from. 75 points, 75 Alex, 75 materia that needs to be fused into your scroll. Might I add, the most you can max out a single stat by is 44 points. Then you'll need to pick a different one.
    Thank you I get it now.
    Lots of help
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    Basically you're going to want to go full crit/det for the best weapon, it will be very expensive since you need 11+ crit 4s and 8+ det 4s in the end. It's up to you if you want to add some accuracy, spell speed or piety to make it cheaper.

    You will start out using grade 1 materia and after 8-11+ materia it will go up to grade 2.. then after 8-11+ grade 3.. then 8-11 grade 4 for a total of 75 materia infused.

    There is no way to tell you exactly how many materia you will need since you can fail the infusions and may require more of a certain grade. If you fail an infusion you lose the materia but you do not lose the alexandrite.
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