Low probabilities of Triple Triad drops, big fish, etc. Grinds becoming unreal.

[Izsha]

Indeed. Asian mmos have always been known for a massive amount of grinding required. Not for having horrible RNG.
WoW on the other hand had very little grind, even in its earlier days; but it had very horrible RNG.

Grind is rng. They are 2 options that accomplish the same task. Quota system vs rng. Both require you to repeat something over and over. Quota says do something 10 times. Rng says 10% success rate. End result is player base as a whole spends X time (dev decided pacing) completing said content. Card farming I'd a grind (rng). Light farming is a grind (quota). They are synonymous.

Point in fact. Rag online. Leveling was giant grindy exp quota. Droprates in fractions of a %. Asian mmos aren't devoid of rng, just as westerns aren't devoid of quotas. You ever see achievement lists? Western games created a NEW approach to quota grinding.

Every mmo has both and both methods are functionally identical. The difference is how the brain interprets them. Rng triggers skinner box (this time I'll get it! Slot machine syndrome) to psychologically push you on. The quota system triggers constant tangible progress and our brains love incremental development. Change you can see.

Bot methods are effective and both methods are better liked by some over others. But the end result is the same in all cases.