It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[Tiggy]

No. Keep real money out of the game. Period. Many of the OPs points are assumptions. Plex existed in a COMPLETELY different kind of game. Just because it worked there DOES NOT mean it makes sense for this kind of game. At all.

OK, now... who even SAID that a house is a "reward for a massive, long effort"?

Yoshi-P. It was designed that way. Just because YOU think it's a "feature" that should be available to everyone doesn't mean that's how it was actually designed and mean to be. Check your assumptions.

[AlexionSkylark]

No. Keep real money out of the game. Period. Many of the OPs points are assumptions. Plex existed in a COMPLETELY different kind of game. Just because it worked there DOES NOT mean it makes sense for this kind of game. At all.

It also worked in Wildstar, and in TERA prior to the chage to full-fledged F2P.

[Tiggy]

It also worked in Wildstar

Cause that game has been doing sooooo well since launch what with all the people leaving and them nerfing the heck out of the game. Lol

and in TERA prior to the chage to full-fledged F2P.

Going f2p kinda disproves your point. It obviously wasn't doing that well.

You failed to prove anything other than other games that used it clearly didn't succeed very well. It doesn't support using such a system in this game at all. If anything it's more reasons why we shouldn't do it.

[AlexionSkylark]

Yoshi-P. It was designed that way. Just because YOU think it's a "feature" that should be available to everyone doesn't mean that's how it was actually designed and mean to be. Check your assumptions.

Like that, except NOT? Can you show me where Yoshi-P stated that housing was meant to be a "reward for massive effort put into gil making"? I can show you a quote of him saying otherwise, right here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Housing-Prices

The TL;DR is: the prices are inflated so the 1%ers don't buy all the land available by the first hours. As always, the 1%era are a PROBLEM to be dealt with, and nobody at SE encourages the hoarding of gil. If anything, PLEX would encourage distribution of gil.

Going f2p kinda disproves your point. It obviously wasn't doing that well.

You failed to prove anything other than other games that used it clearly didn't succeed very well. It doesn't support using such a system in this game at all. If anything it's more reasons why we shouldn't do it.

Wildstar's problems were that it was a very difficult game aimed at people who like their games to be hard, which turned out to be a too small of a niche market for the game to be profitable. It had NOTHING to do with C.R.E.D.D. And TERA's NA publisher got ORDERS from the korean developer, BlueHole Studios, to make the game F2P as they had done in Korea. The game was doing fairly well at the time. Your point is completely and utterly moot.

[Anesjka]

a bunch of stuff

You left out the part of Wildstar where....

1. Game mechanics broken.
2. Repeatable quests trapping you in same zones for over 10 levels.
3. Mundane gameplay
4. Broken Pvp
5. Rampant exploits
6. Rampant hacking and abusing a broke pvp mechanic.
7. Unfinished endgame ( Does a handful of events count as end game ? )
8. Pisspoor customer service similar to how Trion deals with exploiters ( ban the reporters, not the exploiters )

[AlexionSkylark]

You left out the part of Wildstar where....

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Oh yeah, that too.

[Anesjka]

The game was doing fairly well at the time. Your point is completely and utterly moot.

1. At no time was Tera ever doing fairly well. It never broke any top 20 in subscriber numbers, and was borderline porn...and dont even get me started on Elin.
People stayed away from Tera because unlike most 15 year old boys, people like playing a MMO with MMO elements to it, not a MMO with porn elements to it.
Not to mention, the game just wasnt done very good.
A half nude Elin riding a ostrich with a rainbow afro listening to headphones... Free Realms much ?

Tera was all over the place and couldnt carve out its own identity. I still have Tera installed and when you log in, you see the same 300 or so people in chat that you seen 4 months ago, no new names, and 200 of them standing in the city BSing...