Warln, we're getting off topic here but... My opinions of weathered weapons: Are for lazy players, who are too lazy to do the relic quest. "Remember these are my opinions!" Shiva weapons: Again takes little skill to get carried by FC of Raid group to get Shiva weapons ( I know, I've played with some FCOB Item 130 Shiva weapon users, who can't beat Shiva Ex in DF, lol) Ironworks weapons: try hard weapons for try hard players ( players that use these in FCOB get a pass here) The Relics wil end up at item level 130-135 so Ironworks users can kiss it!!

ps: I have 3 Zodiac weapons (soon to be 4 then 5) at item level 125 my Sol and Shiva weapons are being used my retainers....LOL