Proposal to scrap the +1 +2 +3 feature from gear

[MariyaShidou]

Do me a favor. Stay out of my thread. I posted this to pick up a main concern with synthesis and HQ rates. If you're just going to interject random stupidity, then go do it somewhere else and let us voice our concerns to the development team. Thank you.

It in fact is relevant to your thread.

I don't see any resemblence to the HQ rate and Quality. (Do you know?)

You can not get HQ 2 if your quality is under 100.

You can not get HQ 3 if your quality is under 200.

If you're going to post some random stupidity to act as a dictator in order to feel good, the Internet isn't for you. Do me a favour, understand what you post beforehand.

[Kimahri]

It in fact is relevant to your thread.



You can not get HQ 2 if your quality is under 100.

You can not get HQ 3 if your quality is under 200.

If you're going to post some random stupidity to act as a dictator in order to feel good, the Internet isn't for you. Do me a favour, understand what you post beforehand.

Well. First of all, don't get your panties in a bunch. It seems that I have at least 3 witnesses that says they(Or someone they witnessed) do it as well. Secondly. Would you like to see my chocobotail saw+2? I have yet to reach over 100 while trying to SKILL UP on an item. If I was a "Dictator" things would go the way I say they go, so why would I need a thread in the first place? The fact is I asked you nicely to keep the negative comments out of my thread. Now shut up this time, PLEASE!

[MariyaShidou]

Well. First of all, don't get your panties in a bunch. It seems that I have at least 3 witnesses that says they(Or someone they witnessed) do it as well. Secondly. Would you like to see my chocobotail saw+2? I have yet to reach over 100 while trying to SKILL UP on an item. If I was a "Dictator" things would go the way I say they go, so why would I need a thread in the first place? The fact is I asked you nicely to keep the negative comments out of my thread. Now shut up this time, PLEASE!

Lol, when I asked to post a proof, you took that as negative comments and ask me to shut up. Yet you are saying you want a democratic civilised discussion going on, where if anyone post anything that you don't want to hear need to GTFO? This is amazing, and no I will not shut up. Proof? Some witness and all, please post PROOF.

[Kimahri]

Lol, when I asked to post a proof, you took that as negative comments and ask me to shut up. Yet you are saying you want a democratic civilised discussion going on, where if anyone post anything that you don't want to hear need to GTFO? This is amazing, and no I will not shut up. Proof? Some witness and all, please post PROOF.

Oh for the love of God! You're completely wrong, par usual. On my first post, if you would care to scroll back. I asked that if you didn't have anything to say that doesn't help with the topic at hand, then please not to post. Now I'm done talking with you on this thread. Please leave my thread alone. I'm simply trying to say that this system of synthing is currently flawed and that HQ+3 for everything seems a rather joke. If you have a suggestion to make it better than please post it. If not, then don't post.

And also I'm very sorry but I don't keep a camera around me at all times when I synth an HQ'd item.

[Cascade]

It in fact is relevant to your thread.



You can not get HQ 2 if your quality is under 100.

You can not get HQ 3 if your quality is under 200.

If you're going to post some random stupidity to act as a dictator in order to feel good, the Internet isn't for you. Do me a favour, understand what you post beforehand.

but you can..... my Iron Hatchet +2 was made with around 70-80 quality...... everything was NQ mats except for the +3 glue i used

[MariyaShidou]

but you can..... my Iron Hatchet +2 was made with around 70-80 quality...... everything was NQ mats except for the +3 glue i used

Then it's very likely the threshold for +2 not 100 quality and 70 quality? What everyone here has been claiming was around that mark, 70-80 quality. If possible though I would like to see screenshot support this, because anyone can claim whatever they want to no offense.

[TheVedis]

Then it's very likely the threshold for +2 not 100 quality and 70 quality? What everyone here has been claiming was around that mark, 70-80 quality. If possible though I would like to see screenshot support this, because anyone can claim whatever they want to no offense.

ill try to get some screen shots of low quality HQ2/3 synths ive done

but when i did my linen yarn +3 i had maybe 20 quality total in the synth

there is no real threshhold from what ive seen, what i believe happens is you get your quality check when you complete

so lets say at 1-50 quality its 1% HQ, then, before it posts results, it checks HQ2, another 1%, then it chekcs hq3, another 1% and so on.
it could also do the same at 51-100 beind a 3% chance
101-150 being a 4%...and so on, going to a higher % the highe you go
and around 300 or so it seems to be more like a 15-20%


now granted those numbers i just gave are all made up, but i suspect the actual system it uses to determine HQ is exactly along those lines, but with a different % to HQ that im not even going to pretend to know exact numbers on.

so while you may see 1/100 HQ1s between 1-50 quality synths, you may see that hq3 1 out of every 1 million synths at that quality(i wouldnt be surprised if im closing in on that many synths total too, ive gotten all of a single hq3 ever while ignoring quality, and it wasnt with hq mats)

[Cascade]

Then it's very likely the threshold for +2 not 100 quality and 70 quality? What everyone here has been claiming was around that mark, 70-80 quality. If possible though I would like to see screenshot support this, because anyone can claim whatever they want to no offense.

i don't really sit ready to take screen shots of something i didn't expect to HQ anyways....... low quality HQs are just a luck of the draw and i can tell you want happened but i can't explain it

i did the syn and it had like 80 durablity and as said around 70-80 quality at the point that you start touching up
it was NQ to start with and i did probably 5-7 touch ups i don't remember the exact amount but it went from NQ to +2 there was no +1 in between..... i've also rapid +1ed stuff before, its all luck and its all random....

there are things you can do the better your chances but it still a RNG and i don't think there is a threshold for getting HQs i've done plenty of syns with 300+ quality and gotten nothing and i've had +1s with less then 70 quality

does quality better your chances yes..... but is it 100% needed when dealing with a RNG no

and i'm going to say this even though its going to sound like a your wrong shut up statement

but just because you haven't done it doesn't mean it can't happen, yes there are no SSs but there have been plenty of people that have said they have done it, luck of the draw is all it is, and it just proves more and more that crafting is random

[Solipse]

You can not get HQ 2 if your quality is under 100.

If you're going to post some random stupidity to act as a dictator in order to feel good, the Internet isn't for you. Do me a favour, understand what you post beforehand.

Not taking sides, but at least the HQ2 level is dead wrong.

I made a vintage kite shield for a shellmate last week with all NQ mats. Final quality was a bit below 90, I want to say 84? It was NQ at first. After 3 touchups, however, it went straight from NQ to +2 (Neph Highwind is currently selling that very shield on Figaro). Since it went straight from NQ->+2, obviously, at 84ish quality, you can +2 an item.