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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    This!

    From my experience, you are correct. Heck, even some groups do solo heal, so that shuts out me going as WHM.
    I do not see why, there is still a much higher ratio of DPS vs tanks and healers in this game. Surely there are plenty of other groups who want to fill such a spot, especially in DF as opposed to PF or statics. It is true some places prefer to go single tank or single healer but generally such places require a very good tank or very good healer and those are hard to come by in my experience. I get the feeling your talking about only PF and statics but in DF your queue times will still be very quick and are in high demand probably. Remember any changes made to group size also affects DF not only statics and PF, if anything DF queue times will get longer if increase party size for all classes involved.
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    I seen a dps rage really bad when I joined a shiva pony farm on a tank. Demanding that one of the tanks be kicked because the party leader "forgot" to set it to 1 tank. So then the other tank changed to like his i70 monk which to me seemed pretty dumb because with 1 tank it just means 1 person is going to be taking so much more damage for an i70 monk when he could of gone on his like 125 warrior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I get the feeling your talking about only PF and statics but in DF your queue times will still be very quick and are in high demand probably.
    Yes, via PF. This is why I mostly prefer DF.
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    Personally I'd prefer 6 man groups and eliminate the 4 and 8 mans.
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    In my experience the only time groups use the single tank or single healer is when the DPS present are lacking or the party leader is not confident in the groups ability to clear with the current DPS. I admit I have made PF parties with single tank or healer options for such reasons but I think that overall I do not believe there is a major problem for healers or tanks (at this current time), sure PF parties can be annoying in this regard or even some statics but DF benefits from healers and tanks as much now as they always have.

    I am actually jealous of healer and tank queue times...so freaking fast compared to us DPS. I am glad I will be making a tank when DRK comes out so I too can bask in the glory that is instant DF queues. I look forward to it greatly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    In my experience the only time groups use the single tank or single healer is when the DPS present are lacking or the party leader is not confident in the groups ability to clear with the current DPS. I admit I have made PF parties with single tank or healer options for such reasons but I think that overall I do not believe there is a major problem for healers or tanks (at this current time), sure PF parties can be annoying in this regard or even some statics but DF benefits from healers and tanks as much now as they always have.
    The main reason people use 1 tank or 1 healer or both is not because dps are lacking, it is because they want faster clears. For example if you use 1 tank 1 healer on garuda ex pony farm you can kill it like 1-2 min faster then with the normal set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I am actually jealous of healer and tank queue times...so freaking fast compared to us DPS. I am glad I will be making a tank when DRK comes out so I too can bask in the glory that is instant DF queues. I look forward to it greatly.
    I mainly play at night since I leave work at 11pm. PF is dead, and my WHM reach the 10 minute mark minimum sometimes even though the menu says less than 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    Personally I'd prefer 6 man groups and eliminate the 4 and 8 mans.
    I enjoy the 4 man content, 24 man content too. Keep those. The 8 man content generally is not that interesting to me...with 4 your like a strike team, 24 man is like a warzone/battle with alliances working together but 8 man is neither a cool strike team or a cool large scale battle, instead it's just...meh. I think if had to alter group numbers which I do not think need to right now, but if did then I would vote for dropping the 8 man to 4 or increasing to 24 and altering the difficulty and mechanics to fit those sizes.
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    i think 5 ppl in a dungeon is nice, they could make it 5 ppl groups in the new expansion. Can't be too hard, more hp on adds and thats it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The main reason people use 1 tank or 1 healer or both is not because dps are lacking, it is because they want faster clears. For example if you use 1 tank 1 healer on garuda ex pony farm you can kill it like 1-2 min faster then with the normal set up.
    I don't create farming PF groups myself, I create clearing PF groups. So my experience with such setups differs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    I mainly play at night since I leave work at 11pm. PF is dead, and my WHM reach the 10 minute mark minimum sometimes even though the menu says less than 5 minutes.
    ...10 minutes, would be nice if I only had to wait around 10 minutes.

    My queue times at night are generally between 30 minutes minimum and 2+ hours.

    Bring on the DRK, I want quicker queues too.
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