[Poll] Party Size Increase?

[Vera_Vixi]

Right now, with a 4 person party size, each consists of a tank, healer and 2 dps.

The class role system is fairly rigid unless you're forming unconventional groups from your server.

Lets do some math; tank/healers are a group and dps another.

That's a 1:1 ratio. For every tank or healer, they support 1 dps in the duty finder.

If party size increased to 6, that would be 1:2. Every tank or healer could support 2 dps. The duty finder would require half the tanks/healers to form a full group (if there are enough dps).

Now, if you're a tank/healer... this may hurt. I'll admit I run Scholar to get faster queues. But as dps, this would shorten queues.

Obviously instances would need to be re-balanced so they don't become total steamrolls, but is this something others would like to see?

I'm really just curious if others have made the same observation.

Thanks for your time!

[Yurimi]

While I wouldnt mind it from a queuing standpoint I have to say when using the DF I have issues keeping 2 dps who can't move out of stuff alive so 4 who can't move out of stuff is a no thanks. Though I guess it's less damaging to have 1/4 dps left dead than 1/2 so who knows.

[twigglypuff]

increasing party size would mean an entire overhaul of the current game, mechanics, monster stats, etc.

No.

[teknotaz]

increasing party size would mean an entire overhaul of the current game, mechanics, monster stats, etc.

No.

i like it the way it is too.

[Vera_Vixi]

It wouldn't require a total retooling. Same number of mobs, slightly increase damage of mobs and increase mob health to match the new dps.

I agree that some dps aren't very bright... when I have tanked... it can be impossible to direct them to attack your mob lest they get aggro... or heal them through their stupidity or lackluster tank... but I digress.

Heck, it might not even be possible for them to increase the limit. They could have done it because their instance servers can't handle larger party sizes :/ The 2.5s GCD already limits bandwidth for them, etc. but if you go to some of the more populated fates it is obvious they are still having technical problems. The duty finder is also hesitating for pre-made groups. Friend of mine had a 4 person pre-made party for an end-game instance and it took them 30 minutes to get in...

I am more curious if people noticed that the 4 person limit created unrealistic expectations for people to roll one of the tank/healer classes as compared to the number of dps.

[TrickedOutHoro]

I think it's fine how it is now at 4.

[Soylent]

I have to deal with 2 dps that more often than not have straw for brains. Now you want me to deal with 4 of them?

[MistyMew]

I have to deal with 2 dps that more often than not have straw for brains. Now you want me to deal with 4 of them?

wow
how nice....not

good thing all roles have terrible players huh...seen them all hundreds of times...equally "dem tanks"

At any rate, I would love to have anything to decrease df timers for dps but tbh I kinda like odds of finding only 3 other "humane" players..not 5.

Not a bad suggestion though, never hurts to see what ppl think and more importantly what SE thinks

[Juumix]

Besides what has been listed already, one of the major problems run into by MMO's in general is a shortage of tanks and healers. They're trying to keep the ratio consistent between 4-man, 8-man and 24-man. 1:1:2 is the model, in 24-man you want 6 tanks, 6 healers and 12 dps, in 8-mans, 2 tanks, 2 healers, 4 dps. Nothing burns more than being a tank for dungeons and being left out of raids because "we can only have two tanks" or some such.

All opinionated of course.

[Vera_Vixi]

Juumix, I'll agree that what I suggest doesn't factor in raids. It seems odd to me though because in most MMO end-game, good tanks and healers are a rare and valuable commodity even with the larger party sizes. That hasn't happened in FFXIV. It seems like there is a flood of tanks/healers come 50. At least this is the perception my friends have had with their 50's. I don't know the solution for that unfortunately :/ Other than giving Marauder/Gladiator/Conjurer their second advanced jobs, letting them dps and removing the excess from the equation :/