Cerberus DPS Method - It Needs To Be Said. . .

[MXMoondoggie]

I wonder how many minds would be blown if I say on JP datacenters one alliance just puts their hand up to go in and that's it. There's no issue and I haven't seen them fail at their task.

Well that just seems a very Japanese thing lol. One team is picked and nobody questions it but NA servers get more people like "Aww but meeee!". I honestly think the all in strat was created because everyone wants to do it and they just decided it would be that way to stop whining and people going in anyway. I don't know why people make such a fuss about going in the belly after you do it once it's just the same each time. The all in strat does work though even if you can say it's not needed.

[Riepah]

I for one actually don't like going in. I've an aversion to vore.

[Sousoulsu]

My opinyan on the matter is:
Who cares! A single pawrty can meowt the DPS checks outside of mechatnical needs for 3 purrties.

TBQH, meowking a thread about this is purrfectly useless. Why are nyew thinking about this so meowch?

[Garlyle]

Who's to say that all 15 that go in are or are not capable? Seriously the walls inside Cerberus have very little life. It's dumb to send in ALL DPS to shave 2-4 minutes off the Cerberus battle...

Hopefully, some of the DPS that go in are capable, is the point. If none of your DPS at all in the raid are even half capable you want them all in to get Cerberus fettered again ASAP, which is the core danger - the longer Cerberus goes unstopped, the faster he gets and the more ridiculous surviving him becomes. You say "it's done 2-4 minutes faster", I say "It's less likely Cerberus reaches roflstomp point because the alliance that went in is braindead". And hey, what's the bonus of not sending in all fifteen? ...Cerberus takes longer. That's really it.

Again, the core mistake in the logic I keep hearing through this is that, somehow, magically, sending in only one team will add to their coordination or skill or something. It really doesn't.

The only genuine danger in Cerberus is him failing to be calmed and refettered before his hastes and vulneurability debuffs get out of control. The faster the stomach gets beaten, the better.

[RaizeGraymalkin]

In my experience everytime someone suggest the "all DPS in strategy" it goes horribly wrong. Just stick to A, B, C. It's tried, and true and works.

[Moomba33]

I've never heard of the all DPS go in method before seeing this topic.
I see out of control Wolfsbane causing wipes more often than the belly team failing in my runs, so I think it's better to leave some DPS outside to help kill them.

[Oce]

Of the times I've done ABC strat, at least half the time B dies inside the belly and it's a wipe. People will do what they want to do, there's no point in arguing. Even if someone says they're going to do ABC strat, many DPS will still disregard and go in because they don't trust another alliance's DPS to do the job.

[Ninster]

A question from a DPS (SMN) that just wants to see the raid to the end (that is, I wait for directive instead of going off on my own):

I've never been in a failing WoD; the only wipes I've seen are at CoD. So is this really all that rampant and I've been lucky? I'll admit to getting my weekly drops within the first few runs so I actually haven't FARMED this place. And, if I get a group that bickers over the strat, what am I supposed to do? I see that this is mostly a non-issue if I'm in B, but if I'm in the other two teams?

Now that I think about it, I've never been in C to do chains before...

[Dualblade]

A question from a DPS (SMN) that just wants to see the raid to the end (that is, I wait for directive instead of going off on my own):

I've never been in a failing WoD; the only wipes I've seen are at CoD. So is this really all that rampant and I've been lucky? I'll admit to getting my weekly drops within the first few runs so I actually haven't FARMED this place. And, if I get a group that bickers over the strat, what am I supposed to do? I see that this is mostly a non-issue if I'm in B, but if I'm in the other two teams?

Now that I think about it, I've never been in C to do chains before...

While I've never been in a WoD that has failed, it is easy to tell how much the final boss is going to wipe you, and even Cerberus, based on how Mainyu goes. If DPS is very low there, it gives a lot more room for the boss to wipe you, but if they can handle mechanics it ends up mostly just meaning it will take longer AND you probably want as much DPS in Cerb's belly because Dps is already low.

On the other hand, if you have a good amount of people wiping on Mainyu because they just keep dieing to the same mechanics over and over, then unless its confined to mostly one group you will die at Cerb and CoD atleast once each. All DPS method will still help with Cerb, though in this case chains will probably be the bigger problem anyways.

That said, for what to do: If nothing is agreed on before the pull, its probably best to go in and take down the walls, getting Cerb down fast takes priority. Other wise if they manage to agree on something before the pull just go with that.

[Riviere]

In almost every run I've done since it came out, all DPS went inside. The times there was a wipe after that was because people failed the chain mechanic. One team goes all, all DPS go in, the only difference I've seen is the time it takes to down the boss.