It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[Magis]

that's what I don't understand why the raiders don't want SE to implement a story mode Coil. if they make 2 separated modes for it they wouldn't have to nerf Coil 1 & 2 every 3 months. now they don't want people to have story mode Coil and also complain about how Coil 1 & 2 got nerfed.

Because the story is part and parcel of the content. For many people, they raid because they want to see the cutscene at the end. Add a "story mode"? Well good job, you cheapened the reward for everyone cause a small minority couldn't put the effort in to complete already nerfed content, or were too impatient to wait until it was nerfed. Now those players who would have raided for the story have lost all motivation to actually do the content. Woops, you now shrunk the amount of people doing the content itself. This was noticed already in WoW where people who used to raid stopped because the story was just given out for free.

This isn't even including the fact that it's watchable on Youtube right this moment, so a game changing nerf isn't even required!

What is your argument? It's not like the story is hidden from you.

Well said. Way too many people place their videogame skills on a high pedestal like they mean anything. If they didn't measure their self worth on how well they raid, they'd realize a story mode would not affect them at all.

lol, I'm sorry but even casuals can complete coil, skill has nothing to do with it. It makes me chuckle that you have this strawman in your head when people who do coil aren't any different than those who do not.

[Moqi]

Well good job, you cheapened the reward for everyone cause a small minority couldn't put the effort in to complete already nerfed content, or were too impatient to wait until it was nerfed.

How is it cheapened?

[Magis]

How is it cheapened?

By having no effort being put behind it to get the reward? Tell me, how fun would say Skyrim be if it gave you ever skill, item, and max level when you started? Or GTAV if you got max money and every gun, bonus item, etc in the game? You'd have fun for 5min and get bored of it soon after compared to... playing the game and getting those items yourself. Heck, how fun would Call of Duty be if every cutscene was just given to you when you started? The gameplay itself is meh, but a lot of people play for the cinematic quality. There is a reason there is a game behind it all.

You want the cheat code that gives you everything while everyone else wants to play the actual game. And since this is a MMO, everyone gets this "cheat code".

[Evangela]

Because the story is part and parcel of the content. For many people, they raid because they want to see the cutscene at the end. Add a "story mode"? Well good job, you cheapened the reward for everyone cause a small minority couldn't put the effort in to complete already nerfed content, or were too impatient to wait until it was nerfed. Now those players who would have raided for the story have lost all motivation to actually do the content. Woops, you now shrunk the amount of people doing the content itself. This was noticed already in WoW where people who used to raid stopped because the story was just given out for free.

This isn't even including the fact that it's watchable on Youtube right this moment, so a game changing nerf isn't even required!

What is your argument? It's not like the story is hidden from you.

how is that cheapen the reward of the content? will you get mad if other people can watch the cutscenes too? or you'll feel like you're not an elite anymore?

if they do it like the story primals, there will be no item drops in the normal mode so you raiders can do the extreme mode for your loots.

it's a win-win situation unless you think that casual players watching the cutscenes will hurt your feeling for some reason.

and that same old argument.... "the content is there! why don't just do it!?". don't you realize that many people can't do it due to the difficulty of the content? or you just want to ask to make fun of people who can't do it? it's like saying why can't everyone beats Ninja Gaiden Sigma!?

[Moqi]

By having no effort being put behind it to get the reward?

My Coil gear is worth whatever time and effort I put into obtaining it and only that. No one can alter it in any way.

If it's too difficult, then better yourself or quit. You aren't getting the fact that as end-game content, it isn't suppose to be easy, it isn't suppose to be one-shottable like literally every other piece of content in the game. Also another poster with the victim complex crap, cut that shit out. No one is making fun of you. Maybe if you didn't put yourself down so much or act like everyone was out to get you, you'd actually try and complete the content.

I do Coil. Stop talking to me like I don't.

[Magis]

how is that cheapen the reward of the content? will you get mad if other people can watch the cutscenes too? or you'll feel like you're not an elite anymore?

if they do it like the story primals, there will be no item drops in the normal mode so you raiders can do the extreme mode for your loots.

it's a win-win situation unless you think that casual players watching the cutscenes will hurt your feeling for some reason.

and that same old argument.... "the content is there! why don't just do it!?". don't you realize that many people can't do it due to the difficulty of the content? or you just want to ask to make fun of people who can't do it? it's like saying why can't everyone beats Ninja Gaiden Sigma!?

See reply to Moqi.

and that same old argument.... "the content is there! why don't just do it!?". don't you realize that many people can't do it due to the difficulty of the content? or you just want to ask to make fun of people who can't do it? it's like saying why can't everyone beats Ninja Gaiden Sigma!?

If it's too difficult, then better yourself or quit. You aren't getting the fact that as end-game content, it isn't suppose to be easy, it isn't suppose to be one-shottable like literally every other piece of content in the game. Also another poster with the victim complex crap, cut that shit out. No one is making fun of you. Maybe if you didn't put yourself down so much or act like everyone was out to get you, you'd actually try and complete the content.

My Coil gear is worth whatever time and effort I put into obtaining it and only that. No one can alter it in any way.

Good for you! However, you are not in an isolation bubble, even though people would like to try and turn the game into that.

You guys still talkin' about this.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Its old, let it go.

Yeah at this point it's just going in circles. Think everything has been said already.

[Kallera]

Have the people that wonder why people don't suffer through the turns in coil is maybe they don't want to suffer through it? That the difficulty is no longer in the realm of fun, but frustration? And that they have to face the same frustration with each patch?

[Moqi]

Good for you! However, you are not in an isolation bubble, even though people would like to try and turn the game into that.

What does this even mean? If what other people are wearing affects you, start loving yourself man. Your achievements are not worth less when other people get them, it's not a healthy prospective. Be happy for however you got them and be happy for however other people have gotten them too.

[Kuwagami]

meh who cares ?

Alexander coming

easy mode "nerfed SCOB + echo mode" with loot
hard mode "savage SCOB mode" with better loot (and titles maybe)

fixes what the thread was about before people began to rant for whatever suits them
fixes the need to feel special by having exclusive rewards for the good ones

fixes the need to nerf content as it grows older

brand new loot system to avoid the weeks of useless junk going to trash


everyone will win from that.

END


(pretty please with sugar coat ? yes ?)

[Gardes]

I do Coil. Stop talking to me like I don't.

You don't look like you're doing FCOB though.