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  1. #51
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Change FC. They don't know a thing about healing. When you reach higher levels (and probably already in lower dungeons) you will meet comrades who will LOVE you for dps'ing. This is what differs from a good and a bad healer. The former contributes actively, the latter stays idle (and often can't even do his job right)
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  2. #52
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    Lyzern's Avatar
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    Lyzern Thorvandr
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Change FC. They don't know a thing about healing. When you reach higher levels (and probably already in lower dungeons) you will meet comrades who will LOVE you for dps'ing. This is what differs from a good and a bad healer. The former contributes actively, the latter stays idle (and often can't even do his job right)
    Did they raise the cap yet?

    Also, please stop telling me to change FC, they are my friends despite disagreeing with me. I will join a static for that kind of thought process.
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    Last edited by Lyzern; 02-18-2015 at 10:25 AM.
    Everything is bearable with music

  3. #53
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    If you play conjurer/white-mage/scholar you should be prioritizing healing. I switched to playing Healer because all the PUG groups I play with seem to have healer classes that don't know what they're doing and erroneously believe they should be contributing damage when it's unnecessary or even detrimental.
    I had a WHM in Odin trial before that just kept healing during his enrage while gungirs were still up, trying to top-off everyone. What they should have done was fire off Divine Seal with Medica 2 and then cleric stance DPS so we didn't have to wipe at 1%. His enrage was going to hit well before anyone would be close to death. Yet they kept healing in the inappropriate manner, and that was detrimental to the success.

    Prioritizing smart healing strategy is the better way to put it.
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  4. #54
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    Kaskel2000's Avatar
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    Caladren Loneheart
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    The "this is the difference between a good healer and a bad healer" when it comes to dps really annoys me. A good healer keeps the party alive when the **** hits the fan and massive damage is being done. He manages to solo heal when the second healer gets locked out or DCs. Because that's a healers job, to keep everyone a live! Now if you your in a dungeon that doesn't require intensive healing and you can dps while healing then that's fine if your comfortable with the situation.
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  5. #55
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Of course, you don't just dps.. You pick the right moment for it. I didn't mean to incitate any healer to dps blindly.
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  6. #56
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    Sousoulsu's Avatar
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    Kuus Hime
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Your FC is made up of anti-turbo-nerd babbies.
    Abort ASAP.
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  7. #57
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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaskel2000 View Post
    A good healer keeps the party alive when the **** hits the fan and massive damage is being done. He manages to solo heal when the second healer gets locked out or DCs.
    Except a flawless healer will know which phases of an instance/boss the **** can potentially hit the fan as you say and won't be in cleric there. If you don't switch to cleric in the gaps where the boss is ONLY autoattacking (there are A LOT of these) and decide to just stand there looking because...hey..."the boss is autoattacking, the raid could suddenly take a big spike damage because the boss might come up with an unexpected ULTIMA spell!"...it doesn't work that way buddy. Battles in this game are heavily scripted, meaning the boss does X move, and 5 seconds later, the boss does Y...etc. there is no such thing as "unexpected", just people not mastering their jobs/boss mechanics and making others fall behind.
    A good player in this game knows exactly each boss rotation and knows when and what they should do in order to optimize damage/tank properly/heal properly etc.
    The moment you start improvising in this game is because you are either unfamiliar or bad.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 02-21-2015 at 07:14 PM.

  8. #58
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Dpsing is circumstancial in my opinion and not based on whether you are or not a good healer of whether or not you want to dps. It is just based on circumstances, understand the quality of the players you are grouped with and of course, your own knowledge of the place and the people you play with.


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  9. #59
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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaskel2000 View Post
    The "this is the difference between a good healer and a bad healer" when it comes to dps really annoys me. A good healer keeps the party alive when the **** hits the fan and massive damage is being done. He manages to solo heal when the second healer gets locked out or DCs. Because that's a healers job, to keep everyone a live! Now if you your in a dungeon that doesn't require intensive healing and you can dps while healing then that's fine if your comfortable with the situation.
    no, thats a bear minimal healer.

    A good healer understands the role of every person in the group and improves all of them as much as he can (same for every other person in the group).
    That is all.
    its not 8 solo players, its a team effort
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  10. #60
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    Areku Foxfire
    World
    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Scholars are expected to dps at all times in my experienced opinion.

    White mage is more pure healing, but even white mage can (and probably should) do some damage in dungeons and trash.
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