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  1. #41
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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    The afk-kick timer won't solve anything. It may be possible it won't even alleviate anything. People will find ways to bypass the kick. Or they already know the ways to do so from pre-2.2.

    Start a craft. Start a conversation with an NPC. Start a dialogue with an item like the cutscene journal. Start the dialogue with an aetheryte. The list goes on.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackweaver View Post
    If I am paying the $14.99 to have up to 8 characters on my home server, then I should be able to make up to 8 characters on my home server.
    People paying to play with their friends on their home server, they can't because whatever reason.
    It's insane. I felt more sympathetic of the person who made a topic about their friends constantly locked out than people wanting to be every single race/job
    under the sun that can already RP and such because they can actually play. :/
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    People paying to play with their friends on their home server, they can't because whatever reason.
    It's insane. I felt more sympathetic of the person who made a topic about their friends constantly locked out than people wanting to be every single race/job
    under the sun that can already RP and such because they can actually play. :/
    Honestly if I had more friends that I wanted to play with me who weren't already playing or started to play already, I'd be paying for their transfers. I can't transfer 200+ people I know and play with along with the people they play with. But I can transfer in friends to play with.
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  4. #44
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    It's the best server so it's hard to join.
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  5. #45
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    People paying to play with their friends on their home server, they can't because whatever reason.
    Ask yourself: Why does home server ALWAYS mean "Balmung" in these complaints?
    You never hear people on almost any other server except MAYBE gilgamesh complaining about this. There's over 5 dozen servers (i counted). Why does it have to be balmung?
    Also, comparing the system of this game to WoW is faulty: the way our characters work and how much data they take up compared to a WoW character is astronomical. Just taking into account what our characters can do without getting into the nitty gritty of our appearance data means that each and every character is the equivalent of more than TEN WoW characters.
    This means that a single character in FFXIV takes up more space on the servers than ten WoW characters, which means if 2000 people made 8 characters each, they'd be taxing the server's capacity in the same way as 160,000 WoW characters. Which means, conservatively, if we have 500,000 subscribers with 8 characters each (some have more, many have less) we're occupying as much space as 40 million WoW characters.
    And that's *lowballing* it.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 02-18-2015 at 04:49 AM.

  6. #46
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Well looking at the times for eternal bonding that are recommended to not be scheduled:

    - Sometime between Feb. 23, 2015 7:00 a.m. and Feb. 24, 2015 7:00 a.m.
    - Sometime between Feb. 24, 2015 7:00 a.m. and Feb. 25, 2015 7:00 a.m.
    - Sometime between Feb. 25, 2015 7:00 a.m. and Feb. 26, 2015 7:00 a.m.

    I am guessing that is 2.51. I will most likely be able to make my alt on one of those days. But regardless, this isn't a player community fault. This is a failing on SE's part. And it should be addressed, not have fingers pointed at legitimate players and said "You roleplayers are the problem". That is rude. I'd rather point the finger at the RMT, than innocent, legit players.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Also, comparing the system of this game to WoW is faulty: the way our characters work and how much data they take up compared to a WoW character is astronomical. Just taking into account what our characters can do without getting into the nitty gritty of our appearance data means that each and every character is the equivalent of more than TEN WoW characters.
    This means that a single character in FFXIV takes up more space on the servers than ten WoW characters, which means if 2000 people made 8 characters each, they'd be taxing the server's capacity in the same way as 160,000 WoW characters. Which means, conservatively, if we have 500,000 subscribers with 8 characters each (some have more, many have less) we're occupying as much space as 40 million WoW characters.
    And that's *lowballing* it.
    How do you get these numbers? Based on the graphical character data?
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  8. #48
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    Wait wait, so let me get this straight.

    OP has six characters on Balmung, wasting spots that other people could use to play with their friends, and is moaning that they can't make yet another alt?

    I have a great idea: How about you play the 6 characters you already have and stop whining about inconsequential things.
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  9. #49
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    This.
    I keep seeing these types of threads, and it's only for this one freakin' server.
    There are other servers! Go try them out! make new friends! Balmung is overpopulated for chrissakes! That's why it's almost permalocked!
    Quote Originally Posted by Miitan View Post
    Wait wait, so let me get this straight.

    OP has six characters on Balmung, wasting spots that other people could use to play with their friends, and is moaning that they can't make yet another alt?

    I have a great idea: How about you play the 6 characters you already have and stop whining about inconsequential things.
    Why would the server lock have anything to do with the number of individual characters one person has on the server? They can only play one character at a time. It has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with it. The overall concurrent connections are the issue. Seriously, a server should never be locked to alt characters; that makes absolutely no sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    How do you get these numbers? Based on the graphical character data?
    Unless she can post links to actual data, I'm just assuming this info is coming out of thin air and is sketchy, at best.

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    Character data does mean something and your honestly ignorant if you don't think it does. The data has to be stored somewhere in the server which can only hold so much data. Even if the characters only make up a small amount of data per character 15000 characters could easily take up 100k+ gb of space. And that's a low end estimate.

    Yes, you may make up a small % of the population (I belive it to be more than 10-15) but your characters(RP players) take up a much greater amount than the rest of us combine.

    And I didn't say I know how there system works, but I'm not stupid I know how memory space works, it doesn't take a genius to understand that.
    I don't think you have any idea how databases work. A single character takes up very little overall space, because on the server it is just a database entry with a bunch of fields filled out. I doubt 15000 characters take up even 20GB of space, let alone 100TB. lol
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    Last edited by TheRogueX; 02-18-2015 at 05:28 AM.

  10. #50
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miitan View Post
    Wait wait, so let me get this straight.

    OP has six characters on Balmung, wasting spots that other people could use to play with their friends, and is moaning that they can't make yet another alt?

    I have a great idea: How about you play the 6 characters you already have and stop whining about inconsequential things.
    Hey, as long as SE has it set that paying $14.99 a month, lets me have 8 characters on my HOME server, I have every right to make an alt. I'm not using any extra connections. 1 account. 1 connection. I count as only 1 player, regardless of how many characters I have. I am playing within the rules. I am not taking up space I wasn't already using when I made my first character on Balmung during the beta. And I am not going anywhere. My alt will be made. But I made this thread to ask SE, to address the server always locked issue myself and others are experiencing. So no, I wont shut up and go away. I have a legitimate complaint and I will voice it weather you like it or not.
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