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    I can relate to OPs story, just tried healing as a SCH in t10 for the first time and got lots of fingers pointed at me but not at the WHM, since anything heal related is clearly caused solely by me, especially prey mishaps.

    This is a new static, so I expect things to be rough at first.So I was wondering if this would be something that would work in whm/sch team:

    Crit rip: sch: adlo+eye ; whm - ss + regen

    1 target prey: sch: regular speed adlo ; whm: regular speed ss.

    2 target prey, 1st add wave: both precast ss when tank doesnt need much healing, then a succor should work, assuming no one gets hit by tail/hiss.

    2 target prey 2nd add wave: succor before, then scholar swiftcasts ss on top target and whm swiftcasts ss on bottom target.

    And what will be the best time to use virus before rip or before wild charge? Would scholar stoneskin + succor be too weak to prevent prey effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurr View Post
    I can relate to OPs story, just tried healing as a SCH in t10 for the first time and got lots of fingers pointed at me but not at the WHM, since anything heal related is clearly caused solely by me, especially prey mishaps.

    This is a new static, so I expect things to be rough at first.So I was wondering if this would be something that would work in whm/sch team:

    Crit rip: sch: adlo+eye ; whm - ss + regen

    1 target prey: sch: regular speed adlo ; whm: regular speed ss.

    2 target prey, 1st add wave: both precast ss when tank doesnt need much healing, then a succor should work, assuming no one gets hit by tail/hiss.

    2 target prey 2nd add wave: succor before, then scholar swiftcasts ss on top target and whm swiftcasts ss on bottom target.

    And what will be the best time to use virus before rip or before wild charge? Would scholar stoneskin + succor be too weak to prevent prey effects?
    Prey management requires no complicated strategy. Just be on the same page with your co-healer so that you're avoiding redundancy. It really doesn't matter what your preferred tactic is (e.g. SCH Adlo vs. WHM SS) as long as you don't trip over each other and let the tank get blown up by Critical Rip, for instance.

    Yes, a Succor+SCH Stoneskin is sufficient mitigation to block, but there's no point in this since a single Adlo will do the job. SCHs shouldn't be using all their GCDs to throw around Stoneskins when they could be assisting with DPS instead.

    An important factor is how well you and your partner predict the Prey mechanic and how quickly you can respond. If, for example, your WHM partner is habitually slow on the draw, you will need to shoulder more of the responsibility. You can easily handle both Preys during the add phase if your WHM is really pressed to respond (though that really shouldn't be the case). If, on the other hand, the WHM is on top of things, the slower casting time of Stoneskin won't be an issue (especially if they wisely throw a few out right before add phases begin).

    As for Virus, you might as well use it on the first Rip since it will be up again for the first (potentially) big raid-wide AoE. Early Wild Charges should not be giving your team any problems if they are soaking correctly by standing in a line and not hugging. If DPS is low and you are pushing the soft enrage relatively early, a timely Virus could help prevent a Charge+Floor Tick death in the last phase.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 02-18-2015 at 02:57 AM.

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    Thanks for the tips, Cynfael! ^_^ I'll pass them along to the team, and hopefully we can beat it. In retrospect it probably isn't that hard of a turn to heal, but takes getting used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurr View Post
    Thanks for the tips, Cynfael! ^_^ I'll pass them along to the team, and hopefully we can beat it. In retrospect it probably isn't that hard of a turn to heal, but takes getting used to.
    Np It actually has a lot of "lulls" and isn't terribly healing intensive; it's just a matter of understanding the script. You will beat it in no time.

    If your healing partner isn't as quick to learn the hokey-pokey as you are or is newer to the fight, you can also help by calling out Preys in voice chat as they are about to happen and then name the target you're about to Adlo when they do happen. In my static I have the WHM take care of Prey in P1 since he has little else to worry about. We split the Prey targets in each add phase, and I Adlo the Prey target in the final phase if a Critical Rip is going out so that someone is guaranteed to be making sure that the tank doesn't die.

    Also, if your raid DPS is not high enough to beat the enrage timer, you might need to call for a Wild Charge target to be sacrificed when the safe zone is gone or nearly gone. If the boss has <10% to go, you're better off letting 1 person die and taking advantage of the boss' "sitting duck" time to burn it rather than risking 3-4 deaths. If everyone stacks properly for Charge, the SCH shields, and the WHM times their heal correctly, people really shouldn't die, but that's a lot of variables. If your group is good enough to pull that off consistently, chances are that they aren't going to see a full enrage, anyway. It's a useful trick during progression, though.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 02-18-2015 at 10:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    If everyone stacks properly for Charge, the SCH shields, and the WHM times their heal correctly, people really shouldn't die, but that's a lot of variables.
    For what it's worth, I keep the boss on Focus Target and use the "L" in "Wild Charge" as my visual go-to for starting to cast the heal. Whether I'm in line or sitting it out due to Heat Lightning, the timing for casting the cure can be made easier to get consistent that way. [/two cents]
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