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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    I gather shards and crystals as my main source of income, a lot of shards and crystals. I get suspected of botting all the time. Sometimes people say I'm lying and that I'm really a bot, even while having an active conversation with them. Like really guy? I get it, people bot. You think I'm a bot. Go away and leave me alone.

    It's sad that it's so bad that anyone with axe in hand is considered a bot. I really just can't gather in peace without someone shoving their nose into my business, and I hate feeling the need to constantly explain myself to them.
    This is what victimization does to you. All of this complaining actually empowers bot users. If you start implementing tools that presents a "guilty until proven innocent" nature where everyone is monitored for "unusual" behavior you generally take away some aspect of freedom in gaming. These people aren't playing to have fun. Yoshi P knows what he's doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJace View Post
    This is what victimization does to you. All of this complaining actually empowers bot users. If you start implementing tools that presents a "guilty until proven innocent" nature where everyone is monitored for "unusual" behavior you generally take away some aspect of freedom in gaming. These people aren't playing to have fun. Yoshi P knows what he's doing.
    Fine words coming from a person that accuses the opposition that they're actually secretly part of the problem. I've never bought any amount of currency through third-party RMT in any online game, nor have I used a program that let me cheat in an online game, so you can shove that assumption where the sun don't shine.

    If you do a bit of reading, a majority of solutions presented by those who oppose the RMT would have no effect on non-RMT players.

    Flag players that send an inhuman amount of tells within a certain time frame
    The key word here is inhuman. If a player is able to send 100 tells within 10 seconds, they are not doing it legitly. And flaged accounts are then investigated rather than immediately banned.

    Give players a report RMT option
    This is just a quality of life change, that would have no difference to going through the current annoying task of reporting.

    Have a separate black-list for RMT spam, that has an infinite size
    If you use the current black-list for RMT spam, it will eventually fill. If it fills, you must then empty it so that you can black-list recent bots. When emptying the black-list, you don't know why they were added to the blacklist. Were they a temporary RMT-spammer that now probably no longer exists? Or were they a real person that you never want to hear from again?

    And no, all the complaining about bots actually encourages SE to take action against the bots. SE doesn't want unhappy customers, no company does. If no one was complaining about bots, chances are SE wouldn't even be currently banning bots as it is.
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    Last edited by Aerowaffle; 02-17-2015 at 12:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    Fine words coming from a person that accuses the opposition that they're actually secretly part of the problem. I've never bought any amount of currency through third-party RMT in any online game, nor have I used a program that let me cheat in an online game, so you can shove that assumption where the sun don't shine.
    Thank you. I wish there were more honest law abiding citizens in the game such as yourself. Unfortunately there aren't. Just people pretending to be.
    I agree with your tell spam idea. That is what I mentioned about impossible actions that you can actually prove.

    I don't agree with complaints after complaints encourages SE more. This game has been out for how long now and the bots aren't all gone. SE is doing what they can. Trust the system.
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