Why are people rewarded for cheating?

[KingJace]

Bots are eyesores. Having a group of multiboxed characters all standing on one another wearing the exact same gear, doing the exact same motions, moving together... it looks ugly in my opinion. They also affect my gameplay if they are attacking mobs I need for a quest. These are the reasons I want them out of my game.

In addition, I feel it invalidates the months I spent learning how to do something the 'right' way when some bozo buys his way there and then asks things like

This^^

This is what I mean by how people let the bots empower them. A realization occurs "What have I been spending all of these months doing?" You second guess the reason why you're playing the game and then you use bots as a scapegoat to blind yourself from reality.


Me I don't care about bots that much because I'm too busy doing other things to have fun. The more intrusive features you add to the game (surveillance) the less fun it becomes. I don't know about you but I don't like to be mistakenly suspended or banned because some system that plays big brother.

You guys are out of your minds if you think that'll really add fun to the game. There is so much fun content in the game. Why let a small majority ruin it?

[Aerowaffle]

This^^

This is what I mean by how people let the bots empower them. A realization occurs "What have I been spending all of these months doing?" You second guess the reason why you're playing the game and then you use bots as a scapegoat to blind yourself from reality.


Me I don't care about bots that much because I'm too busy doing other things to have fun. The more intrusive features you add to the game (surveillance) the less fun it becomes. I don't know about you but I don't like to be mistakenly suspended or banned because some system that plays big brother.

You guys are out of your minds if you think that'll really add fun to the game. There is so much fun content in the game. Why let a small majority ruin it?

You keep saying that you fear being mistakenly banned. How do you propose that they would mistake you for RMT activity? What system do you think SE would implement that would cause this problem?

And no, bots are not being used "as a scapegoat". If I get several tells filling my log from RMT bots, that is directly the bot's fault. The people who buy gil are cheating. There's no way around it. People cheating makes the game less fair, and attempting to play fair when others are not makes the effort less enjoyable.

[Sadana]

This^^

This is what I mean by how people let the bots empower them. A realization occurs "What have I been spending all of these months doing?" You second guess the reason why you're playing the game and then you use bots as a scapegoat to blind yourself from reality.


Me I don't care about bots that much because I'm too busy doing other things to have fun. The more intrusive features you add to the game (surveillance) the less fun it becomes. I don't know about you but I don't like to be mistakenly suspended or banned because some system that plays big brother.

You guys are out of your minds if you think that'll really add fun to the game. There is so much fun content in the game. Why let a small majority ruin it?

Look, we're of differing opinions about this. My feelings on the matter (that bots/cheaters are ruining my admittedly subjective enjoyment of the game) are not going to change due to your also subjective arguments to the contrary.

[Sandoria]

I wish I could say I thought that SE did care about stopping botters and RMT but the fact I can't take /busy off ever without getting spammed says they need to do more.

[SekhmetM]

Welcome to MMO\\'s ... you see them ban alot of accounts but there is only so much you can do about cheaters..

Except there are actual measures SE COULD do to prevent them like otger MMOs. This isn't a new problem to the MMO industry. Companies like Blizzard and NCSoft know how to prevent RMT at least at the basic level. As of right now, SE supposedly "bans" them. They have not tried anything in actually preventing the damned RMT. (besides a report box that takes a ton of trouble to work with)

Block common RMT words. Let players choose to block /tells and friend requests. Have agents in-game supervising zones and banning bots.

It doesn't have to be perfect, we just need some F-ing effort put into actually preventing them. You can't compare this to IRL criminals because we don't live inside a computer which monitors ALL activity that is easily accessible.

[shawnaus1986]

You can't make any gil because everyone undercuts the shit out of you... it get stupid just let your product sit.

[KingJace]

Then people should either use private services and abandon the MB or realize that it's not the sellers only that undercut people. There are many other players out there that want to see their items sold as well and are willing to drop prices.

(I apologize about these massive replies taking additional blocks but I'm a bit lazy with trying to squeeze everything in one post.)

[Zephyranthes]

They pay subscription too.

Seriously, that's the only thing I can think of. One doesn't need to be a genius to figure out FCs which are entirely bots or know that those players in black mage AF standing around Uldah's Aetheryte are bots. If they're not causing any serious issues, SE just lets them around and do a mass banning from time to time to keep them regulated.