Healers doing damage

[VanilleFang]

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I was basically said that exact thing. I may have worded it differently but...
I was trying to make sense of your posts, but I don't really see how I can do that when it's like you are fighting against everyone else. Everyone is say the exact same thing as you, you're just wording it differently. DPS at the right time for the right reason. Don't DPS if it's going to cause trouble. I think everyone here understands that. I don't believe anyone here thinks they should be allowed to run around on a healer and DPS without healing just because they are paying for their subscription.

[RhazeCain]

{Hello}, {Nice to meet you!}

So, I main a healer (First time ever in a MMO, always have been a damage dealer), I started off maining summoner and using Scholar for dungeons for the queues and I noticed something different in this game: I had freedom to do damage. And I liked it!

I started putting bios and aeros into everything in dungeons and eventually I became a stance dancer, even put cleric stance on my 4th mouse button and learned the stance buffering. I thought I was the best healer ever. People rarely died and I was actually doing something other than spamming Physick.

Well, recently I changed main to WHM and I love it even more. Holy is a beast. And using it on big pulls while keeping the tank alive is an amazing experience.

Problem is: My FC doesn't agree with me. They think and say that a healer should only heal and not waste MP on damage spells, as a whm, this makes some sense, but not entirely. In a dungeon where mobs get killed fast and MP replenishes in between, I figure it makes more sense to just spend MP until about 30% and then stop damaging, but by the time that happens, mobs are usually dead are almost.
Even on ex primals and coil I try to fit in at least Aero II + Aero since it does nice DoT.

What do you guys think of this? How do I prove my FC wrong? The damage numbers really are good, aren't they?

Well, a lot of it already covered earlier in thread, but let me just go 1 step that I didn't notice anyone else take:
If you are a healer and not doing damage when you could, then you're lazy and I do not want you in my group.

Goal is to heal as little as possible while still guaranteeing that everyone lives. Any excess resources (time, mana, etc) goes into damage. Boggles my mind that there are so many people who don't understand that (this thread is not a first, by a long shot).

[Magusrex]

I switched from BLM to WHM because I can DPS, never played a healer in any MMO ever(20 years) until FFXIV and it is because of stance dancing. I feel like I can do it very well. As long I perform my role at a high level I will do it as I see fit. There is nothing else. If I fail or make mistakes I welcome criticism. If 1-2% of the time someone dies because I am in the wrong stance IMO it would still be worth it(they don't). I never stance dance on bosses until I am comfortable with the mechanics of that specific boss. I keep SS up on the other healer and any DPS with low HP while DPSing

[Delily]

What do you guys think of this? How do I prove my FC wrong? The damage numbers really are good, aren't they?

As everyone else has said, so long as you're keeping the group alive (and not putting too much strain on the other healer), Holy away.

[CycLee]

If you have the option to do some damage, just do so. highest priority ofc will always be, to keep your group alive.

whenever i start a randomdungeon, i wait the first one or two trashpacks and see how the group is working and if i can efford switching into cleric stance or not.

So it happens that sometimes, that i dont even get the time ofr a single Set of Dos during the whole run and another time i stay the whole time in Cleric while Selene is enough to keep everyone alive.

So dealing damage at the right time, is like healing, just in the other direction and killing mobs is the most sustaining form of crowd control

[DarkerOrange]

I main SCH, and I find that my DPS is actually pretty important for making sure phases get pushed at the right times in my raid group, and in dungeons/roulettes most people are now so overgeared I find I can stance dance for most of the fight.

IMO, there is no excuse for not DPSing as a healer if you have the chance.

[Jim_Berry]

I'll DPS here and there, but I'll never make it priority.

[Viviza]

If you aren't using all of your spells to their best utility, you can be doing more to help the group succeed.

[PinnyAerani]

There are actually times as a WHM that I wish the team/the tank would take LESS damage so I could DPS more

[Lyzern]

Thanks a lot for your interest and support in the thread guys!

Some of you seem to think I don't know my way around dealing damage as a healer, might be some misunderstanding from my post, all I wanted was to prove my FC wrong , anyway, I'd just like to share my very typical rotation for any new healer who's interested in starting to deal damage inbetween heals:

Divine Seal, Regen, (Medica II if there's AoE damage), Cleric Stance, Aero II, Aero, Fluid Aura, Divine Presence, Stone II until Regen/Medica II run out or someone needs healing. Hope this helps any new healers ^^

Edit: And no, I won't leave my FC just because they don't agree with me lol, wtf is wrong with you guys