SMN in T12 help

[ilmynasa]

In all honest opinion, you shouldn't need to bane blackfire and bennu at all if you got a blm in your party.
Your party composition is exactly the same as mine, and this is how my group does the first 2 phases:
MNK: on phoenix the whole time
BRD: on bennu, does bluefire/redfire
BLM: on bennu, aoe the the blackfires
SMN (me): on phoenix the whole time

The thing with baneing blackfire is that, if you got a BLM that does aoe, he can finish them down with 2 attacks, whereas SMN(+SCH) takes a bit more time, and imo waste an aetherflow stack, whereas BLM just ....infinite mana pool
With bennu, yes you can bane each one of them, yes you can fester, but imo bennus die way too fast before the dot does any real damage and pretty much all you do is fester it. Of course you could manually put up 3 dots (and still have enough mana by end of P2), but again, the up time of the bennu isn't worth it for me to do it. Besides.....BLM and BRD should have enough dps to purse it down.

[moggleton]

I think I will focus on Phoenix more. Maybe one or two dots manually on Bennu. I just find if I don't focus on Bennu, it does seem to go down quite slowly. Maybe BRD is finding her dots aren't worth it due to mine taking it down quick, I'll need to find out. But I will cut out bane on blackfire. Thanks for the great advice.

[Havenchild]

In my setup with a BLM, I bane onto first Bennu and first and only set of blackfires since my Sch doesn't, and the BLM and BRD handle the bennues while i just stay and perform optimal rotation on boss.

If you are required to do bennus then hopefully your tanking the boss right over the spawn point to bane onto them and ignore afterwards.

If you dont do blackfires, then just bane onto bennus. Granted all of this is assuming optimal placement. If you have to manually DoT bennus because the boss is somewhere else, thats likely killing your numbers. Staying on the boss most of this fight imo is how you will get your biggest numbers.

[Hakmatic]

Your Melee should also be able to throw their quick dots on the Bennus as well if Phoenix is tanked in the center. (quick dots are the ones that only last 18s so there is little wasted damage vs 30s dots)

Your melee should never come off the boss period. Just wasting dps that way.

[Necato]

I think I will focus on Phoenix more. Maybe one or two dots manually on Bennu. I just find if I don't focus on Bennu, it does seem to go down quite slowly. Maybe BRD is finding her dots aren't worth it due to mine taking it down quick, I'll need to find out. But I will cut out bane on blackfire. Thanks for the great advice.

Note that if a Bennu spawns during bluefire/redfire mechanic, your BRD will do approximately 10% of her DPS until she got rid off bluefire debuff. That shouldn't be more than 5 seconds though, but sometimes, 5 seconds is all it takes...

[Judge_Xero]

Your melee should never come off the boss period. Just wasting dps that way.

Melee dots are their highest potency/gcd. If Phoenix is tanked where the Bennus spawn they can each apply their dot then immediately switch back to Phoenix. Dot ticks aren't effected by damage type debuffs so there's no penalty for switching targets (other than the small amount on the ones that apply damage first)

[Akiza]

Switch to Ninja that'll help out

[Sleigh]

SCH should really Bane the Blackfires. No BLM Flare, no SMN Bane - these are wasteful and lower sustained DPS on Phoenix. It's simple logic - a SCH stack is worth an Energy Drain, and a SMN stack is worth a Fester, so you go with the equivalent of an Energy Drain.

If the SCH Bane fails to kill the Blackfires, they Baned too soon (or didn't have all their DoTs up due to missing or not DPSing, both fixable issues). Wait until Whitefire goes out and then Bane all DoTs with good durations. Blackfires actually take a really long time to enrage, trust me the DoTs will get them.

SMN with resources could actually win in T12 over BLM in 3 Bennu groups - BLM can't get much going in add phase, due to the rarity of 3 clustered targets (first Bennu is burned damn near before they're all grouped up, and only once the big Bennu has reached the two small ones can you do a small portion of AoE before it's back to single target), while SMN can keep up its AoE non-stop, and a SMN will win on Bennus P1/P2 with Banes. Too bad resources are what they are.

[Sunako]

SCH should really Bane the Blackfires.

Since SCH do not have 100% accuracy. What if SCH miss that bane strategy is kinda messed up?

[Judge_Xero]

Since SCH do not have 100% accuracy. What if SCH miss that bane strategy is kinda messed up?

Bane can't miss and when applying dots, only Miasma can miss because it does an initial damage.