You are not a fail.

[Dwill]

No, not entirely, your statement included the use of an epithet and differed in tone thanks to that. Your post implies that you think it's OK for players to demand that others conform to their expectations, such as demanding that healers DPS, or tanks pull the entire trash pack at once - effectively telling that other player how to play.

What it comes down to is, even if the 3 random people I end up with in DF want to speed run something, I will more than likely not do it because I don't enjoy it, and it's simply not something I am comfortable doing. You would say that means I am telling the others how they have to play, but that is not the case at all. I am simply saying I don't want to or can't play the way that they want me to, but I am more than happy to run within my comfort zone. If the other folks in a duty don't like that, then I'm sorry, it's really not my problem. That's not a lack of respect, that's not me telling them how they should play, it's simply me being brutally honest about what I will/will not do, and what I am/am not comfortable doing.

If you can't see that, then, again, I am sorry, but that is not my problem.

You want brutal honesty ? You being uncomfortable with doing speed runs is not my nor anyone else's problem and it doesn't entitle you for me or other to accomodate your playstyle. Sorry but you're not that special.

[Jayne422]

...but some of those example is just seems like some players being bad and uncompromising to other players especially the "mechanics" part.

I mentioned, there's a difference between a speedrun that is beyond what your party can handle vs just trying to make the run a bit easier/quicker - especially in case of burning bosses down is what the majority people do and actually handling the mechanics half-assed that actually makes the run harder.

So... I will totally run a dungeon in this manner, where we skip mechanics, because the majority want to run it that way... but I, as a player who wants to enjoy the game and experience it as the developers intended it to be experienced and experience it fully, and as someone who wants to learn the mechanics of the game, have a huge problem with the move that the community in general has made toward skipping mechanics and taking the easy road.

It teaches bad habits and in the long run, it means that people aren't learning how to properly play their class/job and utilize all of the mechanics and functions of their job. They don't learn how to tackle the fights in the way the developers designed them, ways which were designed to help players learn their roles and functions, not just in regards to how they play their own class, but also how to work effectively with other members and classes. Players don't learn how to deal with certain game mechanics, because those mechanics are skipped. What happens when similar mechanics come up in new content and a good majority of the players who are just trying that content out don't know how to handle it because they never experienced any of the mechanics in the previous content?

BCoB Turn 2 for instance. I have no clue how the mechanics of that boss fight work. I only know how to sit around for seven minutes doing nothing while the party waits for the enrage mode. I then only know how to spam AOE heals to ensure the party doesn't die while they DPS down the boss. If there is content added later that works similarly to the mechanics of that fight and there's no "Burn the Boss" method of doing that content, I have no previous experience with those mechanics because it is considered unacceptable to run the previous content without skipping them.

If you're just burning the boss down and skipping mechanics, and you're expecting everyone you run with to do the same every single time, you're not only hurting the people you're running with, you're hurting yourself. Because you're not learning and you're not allowing your fellow players to learn.

[DoctorPepper]

Here's the bottom line, being a prick and shaming people publicly isn't acceptable for any reason.

That said, there are a lot of varying play styles and people need to accept the fact that not everybody plays the way you do or the way you think they should, period. There is no 100% intended way to play this game, in fact the main man, Yoshi-P himself, stated that he likes people to figure out new strategies and the like. People are not going to agree all of the time, some people prefer speed runs, some people prefer slower runs, deal with it guys.

If you can't handle a forced speed run then leave and do something you enjoy and vice versa if you can't handle a slow run then leave and do something you enjoy. I really can't understand why you guys are sitting here arguing over simple opinions when you could just get over it and move on.

[Kerwin]

Your not a fail for resurrecting at the beginning of the raid and locking yourself out @80% boss HP and then claiming ignorance. Ya no, your not fooling anyone.

[Stihllodeing]

...snip.... I really can't understand why you guys are sitting here arguing over simple opinions when you could just get over it and move on.

I agree with what you said. But, this is what a forum is for. Personally, I appreciate it when topics like this arise. The op is right in what they are saying. Too many people are made to feel inadequate because of minor nuances they impose to their groups that are not severe enough to stop progression.

What I find fascinating is the extent in which people are willing to tell you how bad of a player someone is as opposed to simply explaining the error in their technique. I always say to myself, "Okay buddy, you just typed 3 full sentences insulting this person instead of giving any sort of advice...and your goal is to progress....smh"

[Daranion]

It's the Final Fantasy fanbase. Special snowflake syndrome. you've got it, I've get it, he/she/we've got it. Just some people have it worse than others and refuse to ever accept they did anything wrong ever.

[Solsanna]

So, this person is actually arguing that no one else should have a problem, when the majority of the players in their group are in agreement with how the run is handled, but she's going to be the one sitting in the corner, moping, getting carried, and crying about it on the forums.

I...I think I agree with your title, but purely because it states everyone OTHER than you is not a fail.

[KodiHivaer]

Man Dash, you certainly seem to be good at making friends. But more importantly on topic. I think that no one should ever judge another player besides themselves, if you have certain standards for how you want to have content run make a PF or join up with friends or FC mates.

Additionally, no one knows what kind of specs another player has. I know sometimes in dungeons I get lag spikes or delays because I play on a fail PS3, sometimes it hits, and sometimes it doesn't. That being said, sometimes my Cleric Stance de-activates correctly, and others I find myself ending up Cure 2 crit'ing for 1k and wondering what the heck is going on before seeing that red and black icon on my status bar. So, does that mean I don't know how to DPS during dungeons? Not at all, but if I'm not comfortable doing it I won't do it considering that... If you're really trying to do a Speed Run, wiping because the healer can't DPS and heal takes a lot longer then a healer who strictly heals... So keep that in mind when you're trying to consider that the healer is wasting your time or not doing enough by not DPSing during a SR.

[Dashuto]

Man Dash, you certainly seem to be good at making friends.

Yes very good in fact, I recall the entire linkshell standing by me, do you? It was a very satisfying feeling.

Forgive me Krosa, I will strive to create quality topics like yours about the race change and relationships. Aren't you and a special someone in Tepe now by the way? I hear such interesting things about that FC. Very interesting things.

So, this person is actually arguing that no one else should have a problem, when the majority of the players in their group are in agreement with how the run is handled, but she's going to be the one sitting in the corner, moping, getting carried, and crying about it on the forums.

I...I think I agree with your title, but purely because it states everyone OTHER than you is not a fail.

To be crystal clear, I actually agree with some of whats in the OP. I'm in a casual FC and we have people who suffer from anxiety in it. Its a daily thing to see folks pairing up to do "slow runs" of dungeons or "slow" Expert Roulettes. But we do that together, we don't try to force that on a team of 3 people spamming Zodiac, or flip out at someone when we que alone. There is a measure of understanding what is expected of us in those situations.

With that said, the first post is definitely very hypocritical in the context which created it.

[Cadmar]

b) no one should be made to play in a way that they are uncomfortable with, and c) no one should be harassed because they do not meet the expectations of another for playing.

I am uncomfortable with unnecessarily slow runs. Please do not harass me for pulling all the things if the party is equipped to handle it.