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    Lavieh's Avatar
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant View Post
    Hey but it was PRETTY. Thats what everyone seems to want, a class that summons PRETTY primals but is useless in most serious content.
    Really ? Back at the 75 cap SMN was pretty crucial to high leveled content. They were excellent support and their DPS was insane. The only way to do Vrtra for months was the Kite/ SMN burn strat.
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    Really ? Back at the 75 cap SMN was pretty crucial to high leveled content. They were excellent support and their DPS was insane. The only way to do Vrtra for months was the Kite/ SMN burn strat.
    I don't remember smns damage in 11 ever being insane. They were usually used by subbing them in when their big attacks for their primals were ready and then subbed back out for actual DDs. I.E. mnks, sams, drks, blms, blus, wars, schs, drgs etc. They were also subbed out for brd, cors and rdms who had support abilities. Smn in 11 was not that great at all from what I remember at that level cap..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    Snip.
    SMN never had insane damage and it still doesn't in XI's current state. Their only perks were consistent, hate-free damage, which is primarily why they were preferred for the kite strategy for Vrtra. As for support it became arguably garbage when Blue Mage and Scholar came out... until Alexander was released. For a couple years SMNs were pretty much only used for Alexander's Perfect Defense because it was that insanely overpowered. With proper gear a 99% damage reduction for 90 seconds was immense and was pretty much mandatory for any burn strategy on stuff like Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden back in the day.

    SMN was never really stellar at anything. Alexander gave SMNs a spotlight that really only lasted for a brief moment before they were kicked out of the party for a DPS after they've done their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardan View Post
    Valid point.
    Sorry the word "Insane" was over-exaggerated. Once ToAU came out SMN became relatively weaker, I can agree to that and anything after that I stopped caring. Before ToAU SMN was still really good or at worst "decent".
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    Sorry the word "Insane" was over-exaggerated. Once ToAU came out SMN became relatively weaker, I can agree to that and anything after that I stopped caring. Before ToAU SMN was still really good or at worst "decent".
    They were somewhat decent. Square Enix's track record with pet class isn't the best.
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    Svana Fyth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    Sorry the word "Insane" was over-exaggerated. Once ToAU came out SMN became relatively weaker, I can agree to that and anything after that I stopped caring. Before ToAU SMN was still really good or at worst "decent".
    The only thing SMN was ever exceptional for was the lv30 CoP fights. Outside of that, they weren't -useless,- but they were very situational and far from required for any fight.
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