SMN redesign in expansion?

[Yggberry]

Furthermore, this will make summoner even more interesting as you can give special quest or level up for each one of your summoning pet to gain new skills. For each pet you summon, they don't use as much MP, and they only last for a set time, let's say 1 minute, in which they de-spawn after the time is up. Summoning cool down can be 20 seconds for each pet. Perhaps the cast time is lowered too to 2 second per summon.

[Yggberry]

This change will actually make summoner act as a summoner and make it much more wanted and fun. You can set specific skills to each summon and let them do whatever you desire when they are summoned. For example, you can learn Stoneskin II and have Titan use it every 30 seconds after you summon it. So in that period, your Titan will cast 2 stoneskin II in the duration of its summon and do nothing else. Or you can have Garuda use healing wind on whoever for the duration of the time. (Maybe it is a single target skill and garuda cast it ever 5 seconds on the person with the lowest hp?) Meanwhile, you can set damage attack for Ifrit and Garuda so that they will automatic charge towards the mob you have targeted them with and attack them until the mob is dead. If the mob is dead, the summons just hangs there until they de-spawn or gain enmity on something else.

[Yggberry]

Finally, this way, the summoner will always be summoning. The game play will change. Aetherflow will be dedicated for mana drain and solve the mp problem. The summoner can be either support or dps then. They can either have DoTs, Ruin II, Carbuncle, and 3 random summons doing DPS on the field, or they can heal with physick, virus, and have 3 summoning buffing/healing (Titan = Stoneskin II / Garuda = Hastega / Ifrit = Howl, buff attack) and be a support. This will make summoner a contender to all the other jobs. Problem solved!~

[Sen_Terrechant]

My god. No offense but im tired of hearing peoples terrible ideas for remakes of a class, that will never happen nor work in the game as it current is without being useless/overpowered.

[Romsca]

They remind me of Team Rocket. Someone teach the kid how to bypass the 1000 word limit.

[Natsuno]

Nanda kanda to kikare tara...

or would you prefer:

Prepare for trouble!


Yggberry, if you edit your original post, you can then bypass the 1000 character limit for posting. It saves cluttering up the thread with additional/unneeded posts.

[Zedd702]

My god. No offense but im tired of hearing peoples terrible ideas for remakes of a class, that will never happen nor work in the game as it current is without being useless/overpowered.

Seeing this in people's messages or rants about other peoples suggestions, really makes me laugh...

I LOVE how people say what will never happen in a game they have absolutely 0 control over what is done with it other than to log in and play...

However... I do agree that Yggberry's suggestion is way OP and outrageous for this game lol.

[Nyremis]

Honestly, the biggest thing that everyone that comes to this thread, whether just to read or respond, needs to understand is that each post made is someone stating their opinions and ideas. Disagreeing with someone over their opinion versus your own opinion doesn't make anyone in that situation right or wrong. It just means that you both differ in what you believe in and want. Having said that I feel that the current iteration of the "Summoner" isn't broken or suspected of being that way by people complaining. Most of those complaints are actually directed in wanting a Summoner that fits their ideas and wants for the job.

Most can agree that the "Summoner" we have now does not feel like it should, but at the same time it isn't a horrible job by any means. It has things we don't all like and stuff that needs adjusting, but the people wanting a redesign really just want their ideal summoner job in the game. I think those same people feel like SE gave them Arcanist with the "Summoner" label slapped on it and that is the overall issue. When you remove that label and call the current "Summoner" job something like, say "Arcanist" I am pretty sure people wouldn't be nearly as bothered and would not even talk about a redesign at that point. I think If that became the outcome people would focus on minor changes to fix some of the flaws to bring it more in-line with other jobs for current and future content.

[Zedd702]

True Facts

Well put

*Applauds*

[melflomil]

My Two cent

Enkindle on 7-10 minute cool down BUT it is per Pet. So I can use it on Garuda it will go on cool down. If I decide to switch to Ifrit or Titan it will be available. If I switch back to Garuda it will still be on cooldown still unless 7-10 minutes has passed. This will promote pet switches

Needs more MP or reduce the MP cost of skills.

As someone mentioned above wait for the expansion and see what SE does. Storywise we know a way to gather aether without using crystals. Might change SMN job.