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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by allecs View Post
    One of the many draw backs of these "party/dungeon finder" mmos. MMOs that almost completely rely on that feature will always have this problem.

    Also, just a side question, what do a lot of people have against kicking players that want to be kicked? Especially DPS classes.
    there cannot be this or that class can be kicked more then another...is either you accept for everybody or nobody...speak of hypocrites

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    Remember, with great power. comes great responsibility.
    enough said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    there cannot be this or that class can be kicked more then another...is either you accept for everybody or nobody...speak of hypocrites

    Mei
    Wow, common sense must not be your strong trait.

    DPS classes are replaced faster, since it's more dps classes than support classes. SO if a DPS is like "Hey kick me" why not? Especially since you'll get another faster. Healers and tanks is where I can sorta understand not wanting to kick them, since it's harder to replace them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    As for the self-entitlement, yea it applies when the first 4 pages of this post can be summarized with one sentence:
    "Wah wah, people want to leave, SE make them suffer!"
    You're on page 4 of the thread (the first 3 pages?). Did you actually read any of the previous posts. Out of the 36 previous to this I can count on one hand people that actually agree with the OP. Everyone else is pretty much saying it is not a good idea.
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    Just ignore the player. I mean if they are smart they will literaly afk for the 10 minutes it takes for the auto kick to boot them - not doing anything etc... Else report for harrasement and if they do try early pulls let them do them solo the rest can just wait the extra 20s it'll take them to die and then reset.

    what do a lot of people have against kicking players that want to be kicked?
    You commit to duty finder to finish the task at hand. If something real life comes up then you are free to leave whenever and the 30 minute penalty
    is a non-issue for you. You do not get the privilege of being a brat that didn't get your loot and wants to avoid said penalty.

    Stick it out or leave the moment you see someone else leave in any alliance. That's even more annoying. Half of one of the alliance is gone and
    people still insisit on getting kicked. The moment you see the first finding new party members message is the moment you can leave without a penalty.

    When a party cant win, it shouldn't be a choice between: Bang my head on a wall or be punished for their failures
    This is what vote abandon is for. Or as said above the moment anyone leaves you are free to leave without a penalty.

    And yes I stand behind my words. I have stuck out with groups until the timer ran out if they were commited to trying and learning the fights and actually listening to suggestions if needed.
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    Last edited by ruskie; 02-10-2015 at 08:04 PM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruskie View Post
    You commit to duty finder to finish the task at hand.
    I beg to differ, people join for all different reasons. I still don't see what the big issue is with kicking people that asked.
    Is it a control thing? I mean technically in the end you're going to end up kicking them anyway if they decide to afk, spam emotes, early pulls etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allecs View Post
    Wow, common sense must not be your strong trait.

    DPS classes are replaced faster, since it's more dps classes than support classes. SO if a DPS is like "Hey kick me" why not? Especially since you'll get another faster. Healers and tanks is where I can sorta understand not wanting to kick them, since it's harder to replace them.
    ergo why you are an hypocrite there cannot be two ways of doing it if you accept and see no problem in kicking a DPS that ask for it, equally there is no problem in doing the same for a healer or a tank...just because is harder to get a replacement should not be a criteria, both asked...

    Common sense is fine with me, I do not use two rules for a same situation..you do

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    ergo why you are an hypocrite there cannot be two ways of doing it if you accept and see no problem in kicking a DPS that ask for it, equally there is no problem in doing the same for a healer or a tank...just because is harder to get a replacement should not be a criteria, both asked...

    Common sense is fine with me, I do not use two rules for a same situation..you do

    Mei
    You need to learn the definition of hypocrisy, I don't have two rules. I kick anyone who asks to be kicked. I said I can understand why other people might not kick a healer or tank. I play support classes and I RARELY asked to be kicked so no problems there.
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    Put all the loot on the final boss, that way everyone is forced to run the full thing otherwise you wont get anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by AckersFury View Post
    Put all the loot on the final boss, that way everyone is forced to run the full thing otherwise you wont get anything
    That would be funny, a troll move right back at them. Leave the loot till the end, if they pout in the corner and go AFK, leave them, finish the run (if possible). Then kick them right before or if you can after the final boss, dived up the loot, they get nothing and just stood there like an idiot for a long time.
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