Ranged DPS dominating Slaughter Mode

[AntiSocialPanda]

Same can be said for you in FFXIV.
See how this argument can go both ways?
Just stop already.

Not really, FFXIV has a mechanic in place that prevents casters from even defending themselves. So its not entirely your fault, and with zero peel ability you're essentially a free kill. Also, we're not talking about me, with Lustrate and Eos I have no problem surviving melee. Just stop already.

[AntiSocialPanda]

Just a question, are your Squishis going in with VIT Accessories? Tankyness is a huge thing for these fights and I've noticed a profound survival difference between those that do and do not go VIT in these fights. I don't know how your partner was working but it may help if not.

Typically, as a PLD, my job is to intercept those who try to attack my healers and in the event of them being overwhemed, cover and hope they can pull of a sleep before I die ^^;

I seriously doubt he has any, but I'd have to ask to be sure. He's more concerned with getting kills than anything so VIT is probably second priority to him.

[Hyrist]

I seriously doubt he has any, but I'd have to ask to be sure. He's more concerned with getting kills than anything so VIT is probably second priority to him.

That's probably the problem.

Black Mages have no knockback, but they have several CC abilities that keep the enemy at bay and enable them to get distance. Specificly, Two Sleeps (one instant), Two Binds (both AoE) and a Weight. They can also Flee with impunity.

Summoner have an instant Blind, a Knockback (Garuda) or a Stun (Ifrit/Titan) and two Binds (One subbed)

Both of them have methods for instant casting and guaranteed casting aside from being stunned.

So they are not without their peel tools. They're just not as easy to execute as say, having the local paladin walk up and bash a shield in a Ninja's face till they get Holmganged by the Warrior.

But that's ok, they get to sleep that pesky white mage that's healing that bloody Ninja.

[Sunako]

Yesterday I was in 8v8v8 bracket and dragoon had more kills than everybody else and more damage than everybody else. He just died once because of melee limit. I played healer in that time and he/she was pretty well in range always so it was pretty easy keep him/her alive.

[Potatoes]

Yesterday I was in 8v8v8 bracket and dragoon had more kills than everybody else and more damage than everybody else. He just died once because of melee limit. I played healer in that time and he/she was pretty well in range always so it was pretty easy keep him/her alive.

this is what is really cool about 24 man games, melee really gets to open up and run wild and it almost feels balanced.

[Red_Wolf]

this is what is really cool about 24 man games, melee really gets to open up and run wild and it almost feels balanced.

By balanced you mean melee players no longer have any threat and go around interrupting the casters and killing them easily.

Notice that Sunako said the Dragoon stayed within healing range the whole time. A lot of melee players in Slaughter would have much better numbers if they did this.

[Potatoes]

By balanced you mean melee players no longer have any threat and go around interrupting the casters and killing them easily.

??? you don't need an alliance of black mages to kill a single melee, kill them just the same no matter how many people are around you. all that 24 man means is that they get to spread out more due to no central boss nodes with drones spread out across the middle. it's easier for them to escape as well because there's not an alliance of blms all trying to kill one marked melee.

which is why 24 man is a completely different game than 72. but that's a different thread altogether.

[Red_Wolf]

you don't need an alliance of black mages to kill a single melee, kill them just the same no matter how many people are around you.

In small groups, melee don't have to retreat when they're being focused. There is no way ranged can burst them down with the amount of interrupts they have to deal with. So melee have little to no threat. You said yourself that you get to "run around wild".

Remember Secure? The melees swarm the casters until one of the team's casters/healers are dead. Then whoever has the last healer standing wins.

[Atreus]

Remember Secure? The melees swarm the casters until one of the team's casters/healers are dead. Then whoever has the last healer standing wins.

There's really no convincing you otherwise is there? lol

[Red_Wolf]

There's really no convincing you otherwise is there? lol

I cannot tell a lie.