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  1. #301
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialPanda View Post
    Agreed. I've seen players die in less than 10 seconds, starting from full health. Seriously, I counted, it took 9 seconds exactly for a ninja to kill a team mate in FLs. Why is this a thing? I'm in HUGE favor of a damage nerf across the board [50%], I've never played a game where you could kill someone so fast, it's insane.
    What's not being said: Limit break/Adrenline was involved.

    Sorry but that's not 9 seconds. That's about 30 seconds of buildup for a single target Nuke that wasn't interrupted. That's the fault of the team, not the mechanics. MOBA games have characters possible to be nuked down in less than a second. 9 seconds is more than generous to respond to. It was just a bad gank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    I wonder if that might have been because of a lack of gear. I've noticed a bunch of fresh 50s lately. A fresh 50 tank will have less hp then an 80+ Healer in non-Vit gear.
    It's possible, but mainly speculation at this point. I wasn't dieing that much fresh as a tank, but I was playing cautious then and relying on Shield Oath to make up the defensive difference. This may have not been the case.

    Still, asking for a 50% damage reduction across the board would have to also be met with a 50-60% healing reduction in turn. It's already nearly impossible to lock down and kill a 3 healer setup in 8 man without a two-team focus fire or lots of sleep usage.
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    Last edited by Hyrist; 02-09-2015 at 02:34 AM.

  2. #302
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
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    Be that as it may 9 seconds is a bit much for a nuke, dont you think? I main healers/squishies is most games I play and never encountered such a quick a gank. I dont necessarily think this qualifies as a "bad gank" because what was the poor guy to do? He cant cast without being interrupted and theres so much damage being thrown at him in such a small time frame he couldnt even react to it, even if there was a way (which there pretty much wasnt).
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  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by yuixjfa View Post
    GW2?
    BnS?
    Wildstar?
    any MOBA game?

    C'mon man. Just stop.
    1v1? Seriously? If you go down in 9 seconds in LoL 1v1 even as a healer it isnt b/c of mechanics its because you're bad.
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  4. #304
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    Atreus Auditore
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Was the ninja hidden or did it look like he had Suiton ready to go? Trick Attack bursts are quick, strong, and have little wind-up but after that they won't be repeating it. Sucks that guy was wrecked so quickly but it really sounds like he got played. What was the target then? BLM, SMN, healer?
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  5. #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Was the ninja hidden or did it look like he had Suiton ready to go? Trick Attack bursts are quick, strong, and have little wind-up but after that they won't be repeating it. Sucks that guy was wrecked so quickly but it really sounds like he got played. What was the target then? BLM, SMN, healer?
    We were standing at the Adders OP and the NIN ran up in full view and began whaling on the SMN next to me. My revive was off cd and I wanted to see how fast he could kill my partner b/c of something another NIN told me in a FL. So I counted, hit, stun, dead. That fast. I've never played a NIN so I cant tell you everything he used but I know there was a stun or two and after that: game over. No lb.
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  6. #306
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    Suiton will look like a water spout followed pretty much immediately with a hard burst, in case you find the situation again. Idk if that SMN saw him coming or prepared but you can mess up a NIN's mudras with CC. No Fetter Ward for them either. Garuda knockback > Tri-Disaster = crippled.

    Not saying the NIN wouldn't have still won, but the SMN seemed unprepared. He gon' learn today.
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    I was thinking maybe for every Adrenaline rush you get hit by fills gauge by 50%. With lag and some premades and even not premades I have to check and see how many cometeors go off. I have seen 6 in a row non premades and 10 in a row premade. As a healer in slaughter you gte hit less. So wearing all pvp healer gear and not tank gear puts you a bit over 4k. Which equals 1 cometeor maybe 2. With buff and vit build I can survive 3.

    Watching someone die with the lag is a little misleading. When all 72 are up top and there are attcks and heals all go off and 3 teams are in 3 whole panels I get the hunt slide. Where people don't move but just slide around.
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    Ai Yoshioka
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialPanda View Post
    1v1? Seriously? If you go down in 9 seconds in LoL 1v1 even as a healer it isnt b/c of mechanics its because you're bad.
    Same can be said for you in FFXIV.
    See how this argument can go both ways?
    Just stop already.
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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  10. #310
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialPanda View Post
    We were standing at the Adders OP and the NIN ran up in full view and began whaling on the SMN next to me. My revive was off cd and I wanted to see how fast he could kill my partner b/c of something another NIN told me in a FL. So I counted, hit, stun, dead. That fast. I've never played a NIN so I cant tell you everything he used but I know there was a stun or two and after that: game over. No lb.
    Just a question, are your Squishis going in with VIT Accessories? Tankyness is a huge thing for these fights and I've noticed a profound survival difference between those that do and do not go VIT in these fights. I don't know how your partner was working but it may help if not.

    Typically, as a PLD, my job is to intercept those who try to attack my healers and in the event of them being overwhemed, cover and hope they can pull of a sleep before I die ^^;
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